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Syria has fallen. SAA general staff surrender and Assad and family in Russia
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:11 am
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:11 am
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Looks like Biden might achieve Obama's dream of removing Assad from power before he leaves office if the Syrian military keeps collapsing at the rate that it has been collapsing. This is not a good thing and I am not celebrating it. Having a more unstable Middle East and another safe haven for terrorists or a country ruled by terrorists is bad, but it looks like that is where Syria is heading. The adults in charge are going to leave Trump with one hell of a mess to clean up.
ETA: Syrian forces have started retreating towards Demascus in southern Syria as well.
ETA2: Assad and his family have fled Syria. I did not even know that they had left Moscow but apparently they returned to Syria earlier this week and now have fled again.
ETA3: Moscow tell Assad it has other priorities.
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:12 am to WeeWee
Syria is (or should be) Turkey's problem. They are the ones facilitating this latest offensive.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:13 am to WeeWee
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The adults in charge are going to leave Trump with one hell of a mess to clean up.
Trump on this:
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:18 am to Indefatigable
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Syria is (or should be) Turkey's problem. They are the ones facilitating this latest offensive.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Yep. Erdogan is basically admitting as much now. However, it will become the USA's problem when Quatar and Saudi Arabia revitalize natuaral gas from the Persian Gulf to Turkey through Syria and need someone to protect it.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:23 am to WeeWee
Big winner in this: Turkey
Big loser: Iran.
Big loser: Iran.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:23 am to Indefatigable
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Syria is (or should be) Turkey's problem.
Turkey is going to be the biggest player in that region going forward. Once Erdogan is replaced, that might not be a bad thing.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:28 am to WeeWee
I don't know the end game here. Will Syria end up an islamist state ruled by former ISIS guys under the watchful eye of Turkey?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:34 am to aTmTexas Dillo
If Erdogan wishes to remain in power it will not!!
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:34 am to WeeWee
The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:37 am to DoctorWorm
Isaiah 17:1
Had to look it up.
Had to look it up.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:40 am to WeeWee
Wow. So, Syria has fallen (or is about to). Another catastrophe for the Middle East.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:46 am to WeeWee
Thought I would be happy but no. Grew up with Syria a boogeyman State but still hate it for the citizens. Turkey is expanding for now. Russians leaving. But what deals will be made between the Bear and the Turk over the navel base? I don't think Russia leaves it tbh.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:47 am to goatmilker
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But what deals will be made between the Bear and the Turk over the navel base? I don't think Russia leaves it tbh.
Correct, Russia isn't giving up the base in Tartus. Not with the stranglehold Turkey has on Russia's Black Sea access.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:48 am to WeeWee
"We did it , Joe!"
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:48 am to goatmilker
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But what deals will be made between the Bear and the Turk over the navel base?
Next move is Turkey leaves NATO?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:53 am to Lsupimp
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Wow. So, Syria has fallen (or is about to). Another catastrophe for the Middle East.
It has not fallen yet, but is darn close. Assad and his family are rumored to have fled, Russia's naval base in Tartus and Russia's primary air base are about to be cut off from the rest of Syria, the Russian navy may or may not be evacuating their naval base in Tartus (there are conflicting reports on X about this), the head of Assad's propaganda department was seen on a flight to Dubai earlier today, and the Syrian military is supposedly abandoning Homs right now which is the last major city on the road to Demascus.
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:56 am to WeeWee
All over a fricking pipeline
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:57 am to WeeWee
Dear God. What a horror show of murder is ahead.
Hoping Turkey has the power to rein it back.
Hoping Turkey has the power to rein it back.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:07 am to tigeraddict
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Big winner in this: Turkey
Big loser: Iran.
Don't forget about Russia. If Syria falls then Russia loses its only Mediterranean naval base, and Syria is where Russia stages its activities in Africa out of. If Russia loses that base then its ability to support warlords in Africa that are opposed to the trans Saharian pipeline practically disappears. If Quatar and Saudi Arabia are able to get any new government that might arise in Syria to allow them to build the Quatar to Turkey pipeline then Europe can replace Russian natural gas with Quatari and African natural gas without having to pay the extra costs of LNG. The whole Arab Spring was started by Obama and Merkel 14 years or so ago as a way to diversify Europe's natural gas sources and it looks like the last piece may be falling into place.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:10 am to idlewatcher
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Trump on this:
Y'all have to make up your minds. Do we support or not support foreign wars?
If Ukraine isn't our problem, then neither is Syria. If Trump is who you say he is, he will let Turkey manage this and walk away from the fallout.
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