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Special counsel rejects dismissal of Hunter Biden case

Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:33 pm
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:33 pm

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BREAKING: Special Counsel *REJECTS* Dismissal of Hunter Biden Case After Joe Biden's 'Pardon'

In a stunning legal motion, DOJ prosecutors are opposing Hunter Biden’s request to dismiss his indictment, rejecting the notion that a presidential pardon erases the charges against him.

"The defendant pled guilty to all the charges in the indictment on September 5, 2024," Special Counsel David Weiss's filing stated. "According to the declaration filed on his behalf, the defendant again acknowledged his guilt in accepting the act of clemency."

Prosecutors emphasized that Hunter Biden had not formally docketed the pardon, stating:

"If media reports are accurate, the Government does not challenge that the defendant has been the recipient of an act of mercy. But that does not mean the grand jury’s decision to charge him, based on a finding of probable cause, should be wiped away as if it never occurred."

The filing also pushed back on Hunter Biden’s claims of improper motives behind the charges, declaring:

"It also does not mean that his charges should be wiped away because the defendant falsely claimed that the charges were the result of some improper motive. No court has agreed with the defendant on these baseless claims, and his request to dismiss the indictment finds no support in the law or the practice of this district."

The Special Counsel’s firm rejection underscores that the charges—spanning tax crimes and gun violations—are not erased by clemency. Prosecutors concluded unequivocally:

"For the foregoing reasons, the defendant’s motion to dismiss the indictment should be denied."

Hunter Biden’s legal battles are not over yet, as prosecutors dispute the implications of his father’s constitutionally dubious pardon.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 5:36 pm
Posted by ShoeBang
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:36 pm to
How are they gonna pin this one on Trump? He’s not in power
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:37 pm to
Someone wants to try and keep their job.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:38 pm to
WTF is this??
Posted by Da Sheik
Trump Tower
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:39 pm to
Wut!!?
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:42 pm to
Well well well... how the turntables...

Posted by Barbados
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:43 pm to
Make Biden enforce his pardon
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:44 pm to
Deep State on Deep State fighting. Interesting.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:45 pm to
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Someone wants to try and keep their job.



Yep someone trying to get on Trunps good side
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:49 pm to
I do not know what to think until sfp explains in 14 pages how this is bad
Posted by Wolfwireless
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:53 pm to
Ok, so some of the legal gurus please pitch in, here. My knowledge on pardons isn't in my realm.
But if I'm reading this correctly, it sounds to me like the special council is making a fight to keep this on Hunter's legal record. Rather than to have the charges against him dismissed.
Is there really any legal ramifications to this? Other than for sending a message or grandstanding?
Under the pardon, wouldn't he have his gun rights restored, under the terms Biden set?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:53 pm to
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Deep State on Deep State fighting. Interesting.

All for show.

On a side note, the gun charges were a violation of Hunter's Second Amendment protections, and never should have been applied in the first place. Of all the bullshite Hunter has gotten away with the one thing they got him for was actually a conviction that I staunchly oppose.

Now, go back to Hunter being pardoned preemptively for anything dating back to January of 2014 (Burisma, anyone), and that becomes some blatant bullshite.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:56 pm to
I agree. This is fake fighting to act like the machine is still being tough on the Biden family.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 5:59 pm to
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I agree. This is fake fighting to act like the machine is still being tough on the Biden family.


You are exactly right!! Let's see how far or long it will last.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:00 pm to
They saw the uproar and are laying foundation to keep charges on J6 folks
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:06 pm to
i think someone needs to legally challenge the idea of pardoning someone for crimes they have not even been charged with yet over a broad span of time
Posted by TidenUP
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:08 pm to
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Now, go back to Hunter being pardoned preemptively for anything dating back to January of 2014 (Burisma, anyone), and that becomes some blatant bullshite.


That's what I have a problem with. This is a CYA move
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1432 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:13 pm to
Trying to remember but didn't a prosecutor try and challenge Trump's pardon of Sherriff Joe?
Posted by Jasharts77
Knoxville
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:23 pm to
So if he wasn't ever charged how can he get a pardon?
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
1976 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 6:24 pm to
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I agree. This is fake fighting to act like the machine is still being tough on the Biden family.


I also wondered if maybe it was a shot across the bow to remind him who is in charge or maybe even to pressure him into the 25th/Kamala first female president thing.

The one thing you can always know is that it isn't actually being tough on the Big Guy.
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