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Can anyone explain what exactly is changing with LA income tax and taxes?

Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:25 pm
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
26116 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:25 pm
I have yet to find anything that spells everything out
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28745 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:29 pm to
You may see reduced income taxes. You're gonna pay more sales tax.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
20643 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 5:59 pm to
Whatever it is, it will damn sure be a net gain for the state. It wouldn’t be happening otherwise. They want to steal more money.
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5711 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:02 pm to
You're going to see us get rid of state sales tax because Louisiana is on the cutting edge of leading innovation
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
7943 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

You may see reduced income taxes, but you’re gonna have to pay more for it.


Fify

Only in Louisiana
Posted by Judg7123
Member since Jan 2016
77 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 11:25 pm to
They did not tax any of the services (or expanded base) they had talked about.

Instead they added 0.55% to the sales tax rate. From 4.45 to 5 (supposed to lower to 4.75 in 5 years—probably won’t).

Income Tax Cuts.
In exchange they tripled standard deduction to $25,000 per couple ($50,000 if over 65 on top of a $12k per person retirement income exclusion, plus a full exclusion for Social Security and all government pensions).

After that deduction the income tax rate was lowered to 3% (down from 4.25).

That is the second lowest rate in nation of those states that have income tax.

So you are getting back 1.25%+ of your income to pay 0.55% more on some of what you choose to buy—I know i’m ahead.

Corporate Reform.
Corporate closed some loopholes and lowered its rate from 7.5 to 5.5. That was more than governor’s proposed 3.5% since they would not repeal movie credit and some other giveaway credits. They did close some big corporate breaks to pay for lowering rate.

They were able to repeal the franchise tax (an economically terrible tax on investing capital in the state). That did not have a budgetary impact because it was all going into a rainy day account— That account will still have $3 billion and will now be deemed full and saved for use in future budget shortfalls (but with no more added to it).

Dave Ramsey Plan for Teacher Raise.
They took $2 billion from a state trust fund earning 3.3% and paid off teacher pension debt running at 8%. That allows the local savings on the pension costs to go to required teacher pay raise (replacing a state one-time stipend of the same amount and stopping a fight on how to keep paying for it). The savings to the state on university employee pension contributions is $10m more than what that fund was earning—so that pays for lost fund earnings.

Not quite as transformative as what was originally proposed—but definitely conservative reform and the most actual progress in Louisiana’s sordid history.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
2499 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:41 am to
That was clear and well articulated.

Thank you.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22547 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:05 am to
I don't think anything else is going to end up happening. We'll see.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 1:09 am
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
81733 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:04 am to
So someone making $200,000 a year would get back $2,500 in income tax

And they would have to spend over $500,000 for the sales tax increase to be a net negative.

Did I math that correctly? Seems like a major W for the working class
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 7:06 am
Posted by Judg7123
Member since Jan 2016
77 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:20 am to
An individual making $200,000 would save $2,181 (slightly less than straight up math because you’re moving from a progressive rate structure to a flat tax so slightly less savings at bottom)

you would have to spend more than $396,000 on taxable sales items to come out behind

An individual making $100k would save $851 and that person would have to spend more than $154,000 on taxable sales tax items to come out behind

An individual making $50k would save $262 And that person would have to spend more than $47,600 on taxable sales tax items to come out behind
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 7:28 am
Posted by Creolekid
Member since Aug 2020
9 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:32 am to
quote:

It would cut individual income taxes by $1.3 billion and raise $845 million in higher sales taxes.


Budget cuts coming

LINK
Posted by Judg7123
Member since Jan 2016
77 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:53 am to
Although it is an overall tax reduction, it does not have a negative impact on the state budget

A significant amount of tax was being dedicated to particular funds

The biggest of those is a revenue stabilization fund that was separate from the budget stabilization fund

They are combining those two funds which will have over $3 billion for future budget shortfalls, and then stopping the added deposits

So the tax cut does stop deposits into government savings accounts but is not projected to have a regular budget impact

I understand there is an argument for it being good public policy for the state to save $… But there is also a good public policy argument for: once you have enough saved for a rainy day stop taking it from the people in the first place
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
81733 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 7:58 am to
So this seems like something really good for those of us who work for a living
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
13692 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 8:01 am to
Thanks for the summary

Net positive imo

A few loopholes will emerge

Border crossings for large purchases to avoid the sale tax (ex auto)
Cash deals to avoid sale tax will increase

Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
18213 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Whatever it is, it will damn sure be a net gain for the state. It wouldn’t be happening otherwise. They want to steal more money.


Yep, LA doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
13948 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:07 am to
Why are people talking about 200k earners when that’s not who matters when it’s election time and isn’t who will be seeing the affects.. This will be framed poorly for the next 3 years unless it shows immediate success.

I don’t see how this was worth it when the big elephant is the size and scope of government. Which again will be hammered heavily in the coming years when looking at the salaries of Landry appointees.
Posted by Milk
central
Member since May 2010
1199 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

I don’t see how this was worth it when the big elephant is the size and scope of government


I look at it as a start. There’s a huge segment of the population that don’t pay income tax. This increases their contribution and lowers those that do contribute.

I expect regular session will have more proposals to balance it out further. Cutting bloat is extremely important, but I think that’s a much bigger fight.

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51518 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

An individual making $200,000 would save $2,181 (slightly less than straight up math because you’re moving from a progressive rate structure to a flat tax so slightly less savings at bottom) you would have to spend more than $396,000 on taxable sales items to come out behind An individual making $100k would save $851 and that person would have to spend more than $154,000 on taxable sales tax items to come out behind An individual making $50k would save $262 And that person would have to spend more than $47,600 on taxable sales tax items to come out behind


That's it, I'm leaving MO and heading to LA, being over 65 me and the wife are gonna score.
Posted by Judg7123
Member since Jan 2016
77 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:51 pm to
Yes LA has highest sales tax

But will become one of the top 12 lowest income tax states (9 states with none plus ND & AZ with 2.5% rate)

And tied for 4th lowest property tax burden on homeowners (average rate to value a third of Texas for example)
LINK

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