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Taxes 1099's for Underwood deal

Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted by FizzyPop
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Member since Jun 2024
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:25 pm
So how do taxes work in this case? I understand when LSU kids do commercials for a law firm then in January they're almost certainly being mailed a 1099. But in Underwood's case it's being reported that it's more like a network of high networth individual Michigan boosters collectively putting money into a slush fund for Underwood, almost like the old SMU days in the early 80's. So if there's no corporation front man like a Gordon Law Office or a Raising Canes, then is Underwood just on the self reporting honor system with the IRS? Something doesn't add up with the Wild Wild West of NIL especially now that we're talking 8 figures.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38895 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:27 pm to
Absolutely rediculous that Todd Graves didn’t out bid Michigan for us
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
2266 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:29 pm to
Hope it's taxed so much they end up with just $100.
Posted by bulldogger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
2200 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:32 pm to
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rediculous


Eye roll
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
6358 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:37 pm to
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rediculous

Better than bluediculous amirite?
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
4198 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:03 am to
I'm sure it will be distributed to him after performing "duties" such as appearances or autograph signings.

I'd be shocked if they didn't have lawyers involved to at least give it the appearance of earned income.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9263 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:27 am to
One thing you need to learn is that the government always gets their money. Always.

I am sure they have the tax situation worked out.
Posted by PerplenGold
TX
Member since Nov 2021
2215 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:34 am to
The donor side of the transaction has to report the expense. Most likely a business expense. That forces the party receiving the funds to report it on theirs taxes. Don’t know if the players are setting up LLCs or something like that but the tax man will get paid.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30895 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:35 am to
Do you believe that 10+ million will deposited in his checking account in one lump sum?

On a side note any kid that gets an NIL should have to pay taxes on their scholarship awarded tobthem, IMO.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7657 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:42 am to
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On a side note any kid that gets an NIL should have to pay taxes on their scholarship awarded tobthem, IMO.

Why? You do realize that schools paying the scholarships will pay anywhere between $30k-$70k every year after book/housing/meal plans, and then go want to pass that onto the student?

I truly don't get the frustration. We were never going to get Underwood unless we went undefeated. The money and distance to home are a bigger draw at this point.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
65174 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 10:45 am to
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Absolutely rediculous that Todd Graves didn’t out bid Michigan for us


Todd Graves has about 1/300th of the net worth of Ellison.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30895 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 11:58 am to
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Why?


Because they're now professional athletes.
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You do realize that schools paying the scholarships will pay anywhere between $30k-$70k every year after book/housing/meal plans, and then go want to pass that onto the student?


Yeah. What's your point?
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I truly don't get the frustration. We were never going to get Underwood unless we went undefeated. The money and distance to home are a bigger draw at this point.


My opinion has nothing to with Underwood. I don't blame the kid for taking the money. My opinion would apply to all athletes that get paid to play college sports. Scholarships should go to the amateurs.

Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8230 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:03 pm to
You guys overcomplicate things. Whatever he receives will be reported as income. He’ll pay taxes on it or won’t and get in trouble with the IRS. It’s not that complicated
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
Hammond
Member since Oct 2007
16408 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:07 pm to
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Absolutely rediculous that Todd Graves didn’t out bid Michigan for us


Why should he?
Posted by stein69
Metairie
Member since Oct 2007
456 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:08 pm to
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On a side note any kid that gets an NIL should have to pay taxes on their scholarship awarded tobthem, IMO.


scholarships for room and board and incidental expenses may be taxable by the IRS.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11391 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:20 pm to
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. Whatever he receives will be reported as income


Exactly. He can form a dozen LLC’s or trusts, take it in deferred comp or whatever. In the calendar year the money is paid out, it will be taxed as ordinary income.

And assuming the speculated amount of $12M is correct, he will need to defer it over ~30 yrs (which makes no financial sense) or he will be calling his accountant and asking where the hell 37% of his money went. And make that 41.5% after the state of Michigan is done with him.
This post was edited on 11/23/24 at 1:12 pm
Posted by RingLeader
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1103 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:46 pm to
I’d imagine sports agents are involved as well. Those guys usually get 5-10%, right?
Posted by BootUpCustoms
NOLA / ATX
Member since Jun 2022
348 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:58 pm to
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need to defer it over ~30 yrs


What

Investing lump sum now over 30 years will far exceed whatever nonsense you just posted
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14402 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:03 pm to
Regardless of a 1099 as the kids have probably set up a S corp, partnership or some other llc type, these payments are taxable and will recievea high audit rate
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34614 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 1:09 pm to
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And assuming the speculated amount of $12M is correct, he will need to defer it over ~30 yrs (which makes on financial sense) or he will be calling his accountant and asking where the hell 37% of his money went. And make that 41.5% after the state of Michigan is done with him.


That would still be $400k in annual income. He's paying max tax rate on that still. At least if he took it up front he could invest it to recoup some of the tax losses.
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