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Greg Olsen: ‘We have a quarterback problem in the NFL’
Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:57 am
Posted on 11/2/24 at 8:57 am
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After the Indianapolis Colts announced their decision to benvh second-year quarterback Anthony Richardson in favor of Joe Flacco after Week 8, media pundits have started to discuss whether there is a quarterback development problem in the NFL. But as far as Fox NFL broadcaster Greg Olsen sees it, the problem extends far further than just the NFL.
On Friday, Olsen discussed the topic on The Ryen Russillo Podcast, sharing his opinion that the problem stems from how the art of quarterbacking is being taught to athletes far before they ever reach the NFL level.
“There is no doubt, we have a quarterback problem in the NFL,” Olsen told Russillo. “I think a lot of it is manmade. Asking your quarterback to stand in the shotgun, catch the ball, and throw the ball every down is virtually impossible in today’s day and age. These guys don’t learn to get under center. They’ve never taken an under-center snap in their entire lives. Their entire lives have been 7-on-7 football. It’s been passing offense.
“I coach middle school football at my kid’s school. Of the eight games we’ve played, six of the teams never once lined up under center. Never one time had two backs in the backfield and never one time had a tight end. The best teams, they get under center, it’s play action. The reason they are doing that is because it takes the stress load off the quarterback.
“So I think there is a developmental problem in the whole pipeline of quarterbacks. From high school to college and then of course to the NFL. We want the entire game to be on their shoulders. And then we get mad when they can’t handle it at 22 years old. You can’t tell me these guys aren’t wildly talented. They need to be coached. They need to be developed. I just don’t think as a league in general we do a good job of that.”
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:06 am to RLDSC FAN
He's 1000% correct. Spread offenses killed the QB postion. It's trickled down to HS football. Having a RB go over 100yds in a game these days is rare. That's also because offensive lineman have gone from being great run blockers in HS and college to basically pass protecting on the majority of snaps.
IThe pass happy offenses also hurt defenses. They are tired and on the filed more than in a run controlled offense.
IThe pass happy offenses also hurt defenses. They are tired and on the filed more than in a run controlled offense.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:12 am to RLDSC FAN
Richardson isn't accurate. Hard to fix that
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:14 am to RLDSC FAN
People are romanticizing past QB play when the league has always been majority terrible quarterbacks and tons of busts.
We’re in a transition period where defenses have caught up to spread offenses. It will swing back the other way in a few years.
We’re in a transition period where defenses have caught up to spread offenses. It will swing back the other way in a few years.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:29 am to RLDSC FAN
Part of the issue is that you have guys playing quarterback that are extreme athletes. So when their first read isn’t open, they don’t learn to read progressions, they just use their athleticism to get yards by running. Which works when you are more athletic than everyone else on the field, but eventually that isn’t going to be the case.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:32 am to usc6158
At least back in the day, teams realized that young QBs needed a few years to develop.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:32 am to RLDSC FAN
IMO, a big part of this is NFL teams feel like they have to rush the QB development because QBs never have more value than they do in their first five seasons.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:36 am to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:55 am to RLDSC FAN
Two high will be king until we get back to QBs sitting in the pocket and picking it apart. There’s only so many freak athletes that can run both spread and pocket based offenses. There’s a reason kurt cousins is still good. There’s reason why Sam Darnold is making a comeback along with the continued success of Jared Goff and the greatness of Lamar Jackson.
Need more youth to work like Stroud to maximize both talents
Need more youth to work like Stroud to maximize both talents
Posted on 11/2/24 at 9:59 am to TROLA
Burrow, Allen, Lamar, Goff, baker, Darnold, and Daniels are all playing very good football
That’s right at 25%. That’s perfectly in line with every year.
That’s right at 25%. That’s perfectly in line with every year.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:00 am to tigerskin
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Richardson isn't accurate. Hard to fix that
Elite athlete with poor QB skills. He was the exact same guy in college.
The NFL ignored it and thought they could turn him into a QB and they were wrong.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:02 am to YNWA
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He's 1000% correct. Spread offenses killed the QB postion. It's trickled down to HS football.
I get it... but these offenses also allow schools to compete... skills players not hard to come across(not in Louisiana anyway)... o-lineman aren't as easily attainable... for a kid to be 240+lbs athletic and want to play football a rarity in some areas... so you do what you do to put your kids in the best position to win... no one's taking into account that Greg Olsen misses the days of QB's being under center
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:05 am to usc6158
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People are romanticizing past QB play when the league has always been majority terrible quarterbacks and tons of busts.
I think the issue is these terrible QBs are still being asked to throw the ball 30-40 times a game.
Shitty QBs didn't have to do that back in the day.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:06 am to RLDSC FAN
Maybe don’t overthink it and draft an athlete at QB that has accuracy issues!
I’m convinced that if you made a NFL scouting department out of some of this boards members, they’d do better than half the league.
And Josh Allen is the only QB with accuracy issues that I can think of that turned it around and succeeded at the next level.
I’m convinced that if you made a NFL scouting department out of some of this boards members, they’d do better than half the league.
And Josh Allen is the only QB with accuracy issues that I can think of that turned it around and succeeded at the next level.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:15 am to UnluckyTiger
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And Josh Allen is the only QB with accuracy issues that I can think of that turned it around and succeeded at the next level.
What's the line for accuracy issues +/-65%...
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:25 am to UnluckyTiger
Yeah I’d say that 64-65 range in the NFL is likely a recipe for success. Think Allen was in the mid 50s in college.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:36 am to lsupride87
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Burrow, Allen, Lamar, Goff, baker, Darnold, and Daniels are all playing very good football
You can add Mahomes and Russell Wilson to that list also.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:38 am to Legends2019
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You can add Mahomes
quote:You drunk?
playing very good football
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:42 am to UnluckyTiger
Everyone wants to find the next Josh Allen
There are plenty of big athletes with cannon arms in college - Allen is the only one so far that has actually improved on accuracy in the NFL.
Richardson is the rule.
There are plenty of big athletes with cannon arms in college - Allen is the only one so far that has actually improved on accuracy in the NFL.
Richardson is the rule.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 10:42 am to RLDSC FAN
sincerely, 10 years ago, i stated this
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