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Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano’s open letter on this election

Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Bdub79
Member since Aug 2018
54 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:01 pm
Open Letter on the eve of the 2024 Presidential Election

As usual, Bishop Vigano delivers the truth!
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12603 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:11 pm to
God bless this man.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26334 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:17 pm to
Spells it out loud and clear.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50751 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Spells it out loud and clear.
Well, maybe so, but man, is he ever long-winded in his writing.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112176 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:21 pm to
Trump should have him give the benediction at the Inauguration
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
6769 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:31 pm to
May God bless Carlo Vigano and protect him. Every word of that is truth and every American should read it regardless of whether you are a Catholic or a Protestant or a non believer. It's a disgrace what the Vatican has done to him.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162080 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:36 pm to
I think this man should be declared a Saint for his mere courage in the catacombs.

I was not aware that the Church was against IVF. Is this what he speaks of when he says assisted procreation? Many couples only become parents using IVF so I differ with this subject.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109484 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:38 pm to
I like a lot of what Vigano has done and a lot of what he stands for. I'm still not a fan of clergymen making outright pronouncements on who people should vote for or not.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88679 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

I repeat: the choice is between a conservative President, who is paying with his very life for his fight against the deep state, and an infernal monster who obeys Satan. For a Catholic, there can be no question: voting for Kamala Harris is morally inadmissible and constitutes a very grave sin. Nor is it morally possible to abstain, because in this war declaring oneself neutral means allying oneself with the enemy.


Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1410 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

I was not aware that the Church was against IVF. Is this what he speaks of when he says assisted procreation? Many couples only become parents using IVF so I differ with this subject.



Yes the church is against IVF because multiple embryos are created to facilitate a pregnancy and then the others are held in limbo or eventually destroyed
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1410 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

I like a lot of what Vigano has done and a lot of what he stands for. I'm still not a fan of clergymen making outright pronouncements on who people should vote for or not.



Well, he’s not technically a clergyman since his excommunication makes him not even a Catholic (technically), so he can say whatever he wants as a private citizen
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26511 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Well, maybe so, but man, is he ever long-winded in his writing.



Too much for the Twitter generation I'm sure.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109484 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Well, he’s not technically a clergyman since his excommunication makes him not even a Catholic (technically), so he can say whatever he wants as a private citizen


I have no doubt he still deems himself one. I don't think he has been deemed excommunicated from his Holy Orders anyway. I'm not sure, though.
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1410 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:16 pm to
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I have no doubt he still deems himself one. I don't think he has been deemed excommunicated from his Holy Orders anyway. I'm not sure, though.


He hasn’t been laicized, so he keeps his titles, but he has been excommunicated; so I guess he is clergy but not a Catholic? I’m not entirely sure how those two things shake out tbh
Posted by Curious Moe
George's brother
Member since Oct 2024
528 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:54 pm to
I'm not a Catholic, but I have shared this with every Catholic I know.

This needs to go on the Facebook page of every Catholic you know.

I hope President Trump invites this man to do the invocation at the inauguration.
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:58 pm to
This is why he is in hiding.
Posted by Tigerinasia
Natchitoches
Member since Jan 2008
2002 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:05 pm to
If one is baptized Catholic then one is Catholic for eternity. Excommunication does not remove the baptism it simply says that one is living outside of the Church’s teachings. Laicized means removed from the role of ordained priest. Holy Orders are an indelible mark on the spirit.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11116 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:10 pm to
Freedom of speech.

In a world where Barbra Stresiand could lead voters, where barely literate starlets try to lead, where intimidation keeps some folks silent, let the man speak.

Thank you for posting the link.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22876 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:10 pm to
I wish the Pope was more like this bishop
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53328 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:29 pm to
This seals it - a high ranking Roman Catholic cleric says "Vote Trump".

Foo will NEVER vote Trump now.



Read it, Foo -

" Nor is it morally possible to abstain, because in this war declaring oneself neutral means allying oneself with the enemy. "
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 6:31 pm
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