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Overseas Ballots: Dem Frickery?

Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:10 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8295 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:10 am
This article asserts that overseas ballots won Georgia and Arizona for Biden. I can't find any verification. Anyone know how to find the numbers?

The article contrasts an organized effort by Democrats to turn out the overseas vote versus a non-existent effort by Republicans. Seems to be a problem.

"We know that in 2020, the overseas votes delivered the election win for President Biden in Georgia and in Arizona, and without that, the election would not have potentially gone the way it did. So we were the margin of victory," Kristin Wolfe [chair of the Democrats Abroad U.K.] told CBS News at the group's voting center in London on Super Tuesday." 

CBS News story:
LINK

So...the questions are:
What were the actual numbers of overseas and military votes for Biden v Trump in each of the 2020 swing states?

Are those numbers difficult to find because they are suspicious (more than 75% for Biden)?
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 11:36 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79968 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:20 am to
This has been floating around.

Reports say that you can get one without an ID.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13049 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:21 am to
There really should be rules in place for overseas ballots like, the owner has to have visited the United states within the year of the election and lived in the US for extended period of at least 1 year within 5 years of the election.

This fraudulent crap has to stop.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
6909 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:24 am to
I'd like to know where these people are to request "overseas" ballots. Are they Military, stationed in an embassy, working offshore, or what kind of citizen they are. If they are overseas I need more information as to who, why, and where.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8295 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:31 am to
quote:

I'd like to know where these people are to request "overseas" ballots.


Apparently, any person with American citizenship living abroad can vote in the state where they last lived. Proof of "last residency" varies from state to state.


Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:31 am to
I will never understand why you should be able to vote if you choose to live overseas. If you are in the Military I get it. Otherwise why no vote
Posted by WhistlePig
SW Missouri
Member since Jun 2022
22 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:35 am to
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19080 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:37 am to
quote:

I will never understand why you should be able to vote if you choose to live overseas.

Because those Americans living abroad for work still have to pay American taxes. Those expats living on SS, pensions, and investments still have to pay U.S. taxes on that income as well. If I'm an American citizen being taxed by the U.S. government, I should have a vote in that governance.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 1:27 pm
Posted by WhistlePig
SW Missouri
Member since Jun 2022
22 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:38 am to
There are instances where one member of a family may be required to work overseas either temporarily or for an extended period of time. Are you saying those people don’t have a vested interest in the leadership of our nation, and thus shouldn’t get a vote?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8295 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:39 am to
Thx Whistle.

From that, you don't have to have ever lived in the US if your citizenship comes from your parents. How your residency is decided in that case is concerning.
Posted by Clashmore Mike
Member since Oct 2014
1103 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:39 am to
Overseas workers, such as Oil industry employees assigned all over the world, have as much right to vote as any other USA citizen. In addition, when you work overseas, you still have to pay US taxes since the US taxes worldwide income.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8295 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:48 am to
quote:

There are instances where one member of a family may be required to work overseas either temporarily or for an extended period of time. Are you saying those people don’t have a vested interest in the leadership of our nation, and thus shouldn’t get a vote?


This is an interesting question. For me it boils down to WHERE the votes are counted. If I move from Wisconsin to Wyoming, I don't get to have my vote for president counted in Wisconsin just because it will matter.

The system just SEEMS vulnerable to fraud. Maybe I'm wrong. Sure would like to see the raw numbers from 2020. It could be a function of my ineptitude, but the fact that the numbers aren't easy to find makes me suspicious.

The statement in the article that "Overseas ballots won Arizona and Georgia for Biden," is what got me curious. If that's true, you would think the subject would be getting much more attention.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
9888 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:00 pm to
I live abroad and vote it really isn't that hard.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
9888 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

I will never understand why you should be able to vote if you choose to live overseas. If you are in the Military I get it. Otherwise why no vote


Life situation brings me overseas at the moment plus I pay taxes and own property so frick off.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8295 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

I live abroad and vote it really isn't that hard


Thanks, Stelly.

If you don't mind, in registering, what did your state require in terms of proof of last residency? Did you think the process would have prevented fraud?

Much obliged.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26416 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:07 pm to
I voted absentee last election from Malaysia. I got online and requested from Harris County (TX) an absentee ballot. You fill out a request with your American address and foreign address. The request is reviewed by Harris County prior to the ballot being mailed. It takes a while.

Once you fill out the ballot you bring it to the local USA Embassy, and they mail it back to the states. Most embassies are running a daily shipment back home.

I agree that two states being won by Biden by overseas votes is very fishy. This comes down to the states and how they are managing absentee votes.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
8295 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:15 pm to
Thanks, TexasTiger.

First-hand reports are greatly appreciated.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20363 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

I'd like to know where these people are to request "overseas" ballots. Are they Military, stationed in an embassy, working offshore, or what kind of citizen they are. If they are overseas I need more information as to who, why, and where.

They were doing massive “military” vote drops in GA late at night that were straight 100-0 for Biden.

It’s absolute fraud.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8973 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:17 pm to
There are thousands of contractors that work overseas.

I had an offer by Disney to go an complete the Paris Park. I worked in Mexico City for my GrandDad's Company. I can list companies that have Americans working overseas.

My ex wife remarried and he specializes in security systems at Defense contractors overseas. They were at numerous bases and lived offshore for seven years ........Great way to play tourist while getting paid .....They claimed Georgia as their residence .....

So, you are telling me that if I work overseas, I shouldn't have a right to vote in the state I claim as my legal residence?

Some of you need to have their head examined ......
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
1062 posts
Posted on 10/16/24 at 12:18 pm to
I'm pretty sure what won Georgia for Biden was a suitcase full of ballots taken out from under a table at 4AM that were all marked for Biden and all counted, maybe even twice or 3 times when nobody was watching.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 12:19 pm
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