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Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:23 am
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10249 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:23 am
I'm looking to put a new shed in the backyard. It will mainly contain your typical yard equipment, such as push mower, weed eater, blower, rakes, shovels, etc. I would also like it to serve a general storage purpose (baseball equipment, cooking equipment, etc), but I really don't have a lot of stuff.

Is 10X12 too small? How big should I go?

What company do you recommend? Tuffshed, American, Morgan, other?

Design dos and don'ts?

I want to spend no more than $7,500, and that would be pushing it. Sweet spot would be $6000.

Posted by LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Chance of Rain....NEVER!!
Member since Nov 2007
1852 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:30 am to
no matter the size, you will fill it up with stuff. I promise
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15620 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 10:32 am to
I bought an 8x12 Tuffshed in 2020 for $2100. I was being cheap and didn't have much stuff. I could have gotten one about double the size for 1k more. I kick myself at least once or twice per week for not getting a bigger one. The price on them now has almost doubled.

No complaints about the quality of my Tuffshed. My neighbor has one that is about 15 years old and it still looks pretty new since she keeps the painting updated. They're built pretty well. Studs on 16" centers. Some of the others I looked at had the studs on 2' centers.

One thing to consider is how much vertical storage the one you get will have. I have the Tahoe series and it's pretty low so there isn't much room for shelves or hanging stuff.
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 10:35 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40632 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:06 am to
Your shed/shop can never be too big honestly

Personally not a fan of Gemco metal shops or the Lowes/Home Depot brands.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10249 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:16 am to
quote:

I have the Tahoe series


I'm looking at the Tahoe series. For the 10x12 I'm looking at, it has 6' sidewalls and reaches over 8' at the peak. I think that would probably be sufficient height but will consider additional height. I believe they have some 10x12 with 8' sidewalls that reach 10' at the peak.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39842 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:17 am to
i have a 10x12. wish i went 12x12

shite fills up fast
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10249 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Personally not a fan of Gemco metal shops or the Lowes/Home Depot brands.


Who or what do you recommend? Home Depot seems like an easy and reliable process and Tuff Shed is a reputable brand. I'm not married to that, though. I think the downside of Home Depot/Tuff Shed is that it will take a couple of months for them to get the shed.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20666 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 11:20 am to
I did Tuffshed a few years ago and have been happy. It even took on a tree that fell from Ida and all it did was pivot 1/8" of an inch and loss some shingles. It was a dying water oak and the trunk smashed off the side, no branches hit directly, or I'm sure that would have pierced the roof.

I did a 12' * 16' and had it jammed packed within 2 years

Some recommendations: If tall enough, add a loft for extra storage for seasonal items, or items that you only occasionally use. I also set-up a work bench that I primarily use to keep items I use regularly; hand tools, nails/screws... and I also put pegboard over the entire bench. On the other side I ran some 1" * 4" so I could store garden tools (shovels, rake, machete...) between the studs.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
6972 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 12:10 pm to
I got a 12x20 with loft storage from H&H and it's full already

Half is my shop and half is storage.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
3378 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 12:57 pm to
You live in the country or suburban? How much stuff to put in.
I built my 9x9x8’ greenhouse with 2’ pine tongue/groove and rest dual wall polycarbonate for $1000 not including plumbing and electrical. It was super fast also. I just built the walls and trusses one day, then dig out and erected the next.
I feel like a shed would be cheaper and easier except maybe shingles and a real floor.
This post was edited on 10/8/24 at 1:09 pm
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13235 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 1:44 pm to
Most municipalities have no restrictions on 120 square feet because the International Building Code does not. Most will also allow anything under 400 or so square feet to be inside setback restrictions in side and back yard. The 120 square feet "rule" is the reason 10X12 is so prevalent....and they can be shipped easier.

I am in the process of milliing up a BUNCH of southern yellow pine and I have 3 - 10X12s with barn roofs, and with no roof sheathing, just screwing the steel to the furring strips, sold already. With T1-11 siding (3/8s inch) and 3/4 inch T&G OSB flooring the material at home-depot would cost about $2400. That includes taxes and $400 for paint and hardware. Simple sheds, nothing fancy, but will be water tight and last 20-30 years. I have built a BUNCH of them and it takes me about 24 hours from start to finish including going to HD and buying the stuff. If you can read a ruler and run a screw gun you can build a 10X12 for less than $3000. Doing one for the first time will probably take 3-4 weekends, 8 - 10 hours a day. Using saw mill lumber I will have about $600 in each one and have sold them for $3k each, delivered and set up (neighbors and friends of neighbors). I have to get rid of the trees anyway and it would cost about $400 to put that much SYP in a landfill. Watch some YouTube videos and do it yourself. All you need is a hand saw, a hammer, a tape measure and some sweat. And it will be satisfying and save you a couple of grand.
Posted by ericw8036
St. Gabriel
Member since Oct 2009
84 posts
Posted on 10/8/24 at 3:17 pm to
I bought a 10x16 Graceland building in Mississippi late last year for right around $6K. Whatever you think you need, buy a little bigger. It is built well and the $6K included delivery, install and anchoring.
Posted by Poobear13
Member since Feb 2024
18 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 5:06 am to
I would definitely go bigger. As far as brand, I would find your local derksen dealer and go with them.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6926 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:41 am to
Go as big as you can afford. I'm personally opposed to paying for a prefab'd unit. It's just a quality concern I have whether it's justified or not. I have some bigger stuff that I store. Started off with a 12X12 idea in mind, and quickly realized that wasn't big enough and ended up building a 12X24. I had been wanting an engine drive welder for a long time and ended up justifying the cost with this particular project. I have less than $6,000 tied up in this build. Still have a few finishing touches to get done on it. I am going to build a 40X60 shop in the next year and I'll be pulling the wood out of this floor and concreting it in when I'm ready to pour the shop. There is too much play in the floor.



Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20824 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:54 am to
I see Tuff Shed is offering 50% off upgrades (windows, vents, shelves, etc.) for October. About to start the process myself.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15620 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:03 am to
quote:

Go as big as you can afford. I'm personally opposed to paying for a prefab'd unit. It's just a quality concern I have whether it's justified or not. I have some bigger stuff that I store. Started off with a 12X12 idea in mind, and quickly realized that wasn't big enough and ended up building a 12X24


How'd you do the foundation on that? Looks awesome, is about exactly what I need. I plant on insulating mine and running power to it so I can store all my hunting sh*t in one place.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6926 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:20 am to
I just set the posts in 2' of concrete. Welded on the joist brackets to the frame. They're 16" on center and it turns out that 12' is just too long to span for the weight I put on it. I have a 4 wheeler, engine drive welder, and a zero turn I keep in there. It's not breaking, but there's just a lot of play in the floor.

When I pour concrete, some will settle under the ground level steel and keep it from sinking. I knew I was going to pour concrete in it eventually, so that didn't worry me too much. Just hoped it would have been a little stronger.

The roof is a 5:12 pitch which was steeper than I realized at the time. I don't have any need to be on the roof ever and I liked the look of the steep roof and don't regret it, but putting the roofing material on was sketchy as hell. It's a 10' side wall pitched up to 15'. Plenty of space to add a loft if I need more storage than that. I figured if I thought I needed a loft, I probably should just consider throwing away the shite I was storing in it. I'll also be running electricity and water to it when I get around to the shop.

This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 8:22 am
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11353 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 8:42 am to
I have a large Graceland building that I use for my woodshop.

I have 2 metal shops on slabs and some nice sheds already in place but I wanted a dedicated woodworking building with insulation and a mini split. I also didn't want to deal with pouring another slab and all that after going through a 6 month house remodel. shite, I've spent over $3k on concrete just this past week for other stuff.

Anyway, I ordered it with radiant barrier and 12" OC floor studs instead of 16" because I have 3 machines over 1000 pounds and could add 1-2 more large machines. I put an 18k BTU mini split, 6 240 v runs for my large machines and insulated with Rockwool and then 7/16 OSB.

For what i use it for, it's perfect and I can turn out some professional level projects.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 9:04 am
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15620 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 9:01 am to
Thanks,
I was thinking of putting mine on piers since I don't think I'd have to pull a permit for it. If I made it pole barn style with 6x6s at the corners sunk in concrete it'd probably last way longer than I plan on living in this house. I don't want to completely halfarse it but I know I'm not going to be here more than 5 or so more years unless the interest rates suddenly take a dive.

I bought this house when I made 40k a year and the plan was to use it as a rent house when I upgraded. I'm not ditching my 2.5% interest just yet.
Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
4087 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 9:05 am to
If you can build yourself, Home Depot sells shed kits that can be thrown up in a weekend. I built a 12x12 shed precovid that i purchased for like $800. The kit included most lumber, parts and fasteners. I recall buying shingles and some 2x3 lumber for studs. I also used my own nails with an air nailer, but they did include some if using hammer. Very cost effective way to build a shed.
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