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What did we really learn from week 1?
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:41 am
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:41 am
Every year, fantasy managers overreact to good/bad performances in week 1. Looking beyond the "Alec Pierce is the man in Indy" and "Joe Burrow is a terrible QB" crap, what can we take away from week 1 that may have an impact moving forward?
I'll start with a few and probably add more as my memory is jogged by some of your comments:
1. Despite the coaches comments and actions in preseason, Kyren is still the workhorse in LA, at least for now. We heard a lot about Kyren playing on special teams and Blake Corum being the more talented back, but for now, Kyren is still dominating the touch % in the backfield.
2. Sticking with the Rams, and as many of us expected, Cooper Kupp is still a PPR machine. With Puka, he's really good and both could be WR1s. Without Puka, he's still a top tier WR, possibly a top 5 guy.
3. While we shouldn't overreact to week 1, Isaiah Likely is the real deal. Even in weeks where the defense doesn't focus on Andrews so much, they could both be viable starting TEs.
4. We learned a lot about backfield splits. David Montgomery is not an afterthought. He's still a viable RB2 or flex play. JK Dobbins is not a has been. He had a burst through the line, even if he couldn't maintain it for long runs
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5. Saquon Barkley is scary in that Eagles offense, finally playing behind a good O-line. Obviously, Hurts will not have zero rushing TDs every week, but the thing most don't realize is that Swift was 9th last year in carries inside the 10, he just wasn't able to finish like Saquon.
6. Brian Robinson seems to be a true #1 RB in Washington. It's no surprise that he had a 12-2 edge over Ekeler in carries, but was a bit of surprise that he equaled Ekeler in targets.
What do y'all have?
I'll start with a few and probably add more as my memory is jogged by some of your comments:
1. Despite the coaches comments and actions in preseason, Kyren is still the workhorse in LA, at least for now. We heard a lot about Kyren playing on special teams and Blake Corum being the more talented back, but for now, Kyren is still dominating the touch % in the backfield.
2. Sticking with the Rams, and as many of us expected, Cooper Kupp is still a PPR machine. With Puka, he's really good and both could be WR1s. Without Puka, he's still a top tier WR, possibly a top 5 guy.
3. While we shouldn't overreact to week 1, Isaiah Likely is the real deal. Even in weeks where the defense doesn't focus on Andrews so much, they could both be viable starting TEs.
4. We learned a lot about backfield splits. David Montgomery is not an afterthought. He's still a viable RB2 or flex play. JK Dobbins is not a has been. He had a burst through the line, even if he couldn't maintain it for long runs
5. Saquon Barkley is scary in that Eagles offense, finally playing behind a good O-line. Obviously, Hurts will not have zero rushing TDs every week, but the thing most don't realize is that Swift was 9th last year in carries inside the 10, he just wasn't able to finish like Saquon.
6. Brian Robinson seems to be a true #1 RB in Washington. It's no surprise that he had a 12-2 edge over Ekeler in carries, but was a bit of surprise that he equaled Ekeler in targets.
What do y'all have?
Posted on 9/10/24 at 9:47 am to BhamTigah
Justin Jefferson will be fine
Rashee Rice is a top 10 WR going forward
IF Anthony Richardson can stay healthy he will be the QB1
Mike Evans will once again prove me wrong since I've never drafted him once. He's in for another good year.
Xavier Worthy will be a great bye week filler or flex for am injured player
James Conner and Rhamondre Stevenson will be top 15 backs
Cheetah still gonna Cheetah
Rashee Rice is a top 10 WR going forward
IF Anthony Richardson can stay healthy he will be the QB1
Mike Evans will once again prove me wrong since I've never drafted him once. He's in for another good year.
Xavier Worthy will be a great bye week filler or flex for am injured player
James Conner and Rhamondre Stevenson will be top 15 backs
Cheetah still gonna Cheetah
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:10 am to TigerLunatik
quote:
IF Anthony Richardson can stay healthy he will be the QB1
The QB1 or a QB1? I don't think I can agree with the former.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:10 am to BhamTigah
quote:
JK Dobbins is not a has been. He had a burst through the line, even if he couldn't maintain it for long run
So much worthless Gus Edwards stock
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:12 am to DeathValley85
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So much worthless Gus Edwards stock
I think both can be viable, and with JK's injury history, you're always a play away from Gus dominating the backfield.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:19 am to BhamTigah
THE QB1 ... sorry thought this was the hot takes thread 
Posted on 9/10/24 at 10:23 am to TigerLunatik
Most of those I agreed with as things we learned. That one was definitely more of a hot take. 
Posted on 9/10/24 at 11:21 am to TigerLunatik
quote:
IF Anthony Richardson can stay healthy he will be the QB1
I disagree here. He completed 9 passes and only attempted 19.
He’s going to have dud weeks if he doesn’t get more volume.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 12:56 pm to BhamTigah
quote:
Every year, fantasy managers overreact to good/bad performances in week 1
*proceeds to overreact anyway*
Posted on 9/10/24 at 1:01 pm to BhamTigah
Rashee Rice is a top 12 receiver in PPR formats
Mostert doubters will probably be proven right
Mixon is going to be a top 12 RB due to volume
Mostert doubters will probably be proven right
Mixon is going to be a top 12 RB due to volume
Posted on 9/10/24 at 1:29 pm to Epic Cajun
Chris Godwin is still a must start WR
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:24 pm to BhamTigah
Could be considered an overreaction and not a "what we learned" but I think Jameson Williams is going to be a thing this year. I see his floor as 2023 Tank Dell with the huge caveat of him staying healthy. There are plenty of skinny dudes playing receiver but Jameson doesn't really know how to get tackled and lands awkwardly a lot. I don't expect 9 targets per game but I expect a lot of yards per touch and he'll continue to get rushing looks on reverses
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:29 pm to BhamTigah
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Brian Robinson seems to be a true #1 RB in Washington
Caveat being that Jayden Daniels looked like Washington’s most legit rushing threat.
My Week 1 takeaway is that Breece Hall was heavily overvalued and Travis Etienne is a lower end RB2
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:45 pm to SouthPlains
quote:in what sense ?
My Week 1 takeaway is that Breece Hall was heavily overvalued
The Jets ran 48 plays and he carried or was targeted on 22 of them. You take out the mop up duty from the last drive and that's to 50% of all their plays. That's crazy volume.
If you're concern was lack of efficiency, consider the defense they were playing
This post was edited on 9/10/24 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 9/10/24 at 3:50 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Jameson is definitely a thing. He will do this every week if teams don’t bracket him with a safety over the top.
If they do that though then the Lions are going to run it down their throat and carve them up in the middle with Amon-Ra and LaPorta.
The Lions are legit.
If they do that though then the Lions are going to run it down their throat and carve them up in the middle with Amon-Ra and LaPorta.
The Lions are legit.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 4:29 pm to RB10
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The Lions are legit.
Very...
Posted on 9/10/24 at 4:58 pm to EagleEye99
Week 1 over reactions:
Wrong takes:
-I have to eat crow on Mixon, Kamara, and Achane. Theyre going to be legit
- taking Mark Andrews looks like a whiff
-wrong about Mostert being the biggest late round steal of the draft
-Caleb Williams is not, in fact, a starting caliber fantasy qb lol
-didn’t draft him but bought into the Harrison hype. Would have drafted him round 2 if he fell
Right takes:
-Drafting Kupp round 2 looks like a league winning move after week 1
- was right about London and Pittman still being trash cans no matter who the qb is. Wanted no part of either
-right about Moss dominating Carries over brown. Looks like I got a 10th round starter
-right on passing on kelce and laporta no matter how far they fell
-right on passing on nabers no matter what because daniel jones is arse cheeks and the giants are a dumpster fire
Wrong takes:
-I have to eat crow on Mixon, Kamara, and Achane. Theyre going to be legit
- taking Mark Andrews looks like a whiff
-wrong about Mostert being the biggest late round steal of the draft
-Caleb Williams is not, in fact, a starting caliber fantasy qb lol
-didn’t draft him but bought into the Harrison hype. Would have drafted him round 2 if he fell
Right takes:
-Drafting Kupp round 2 looks like a league winning move after week 1
- was right about London and Pittman still being trash cans no matter who the qb is. Wanted no part of either
-right about Moss dominating Carries over brown. Looks like I got a 10th round starter
-right on passing on kelce and laporta no matter how far they fell
-right on passing on nabers no matter what because daniel jones is arse cheeks and the giants are a dumpster fire
Posted on 9/10/24 at 5:27 pm to castorinho
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in what sense ?
The Jets ran 48 plays and he carried or was targeted on 22 of them. You take out the mop up duty from the last drive and that's to 50% of all their plays. That's crazy volume.
If you're concern was lack of efficiency, consider the defense they were playing
Yeah if anything I am more encouraged by Hall after that game than the other way around.
Posted on 9/10/24 at 6:37 pm to BhamTigah
Just based purely on my Best Ball drafts on DK
- I'm happy I avoided Puka and went heavy on Kupp
- Barkley & Taylor were basically at the same draft spot and I think I picked right with Barkley
- Very concerned about Luke Musgraves role in the GB passing game
- Thinking the NYG RB's Tracy & Gray might end up being good late round flyers for later in the season
- Praying JD & Terry Mcclaurin get on the same page.
- Having Josh Palmer rated over Mcconkey might've been a mistake
- I'm happy I avoided Puka and went heavy on Kupp
- Barkley & Taylor were basically at the same draft spot and I think I picked right with Barkley
- Very concerned about Luke Musgraves role in the GB passing game
- Thinking the NYG RB's Tracy & Gray might end up being good late round flyers for later in the season
- Praying JD & Terry Mcclaurin get on the same page.
- Having Josh Palmer rated over Mcconkey might've been a mistake
Posted on 9/11/24 at 5:59 am to BhamTigah
Those feel solid.
I think the ravens even with lack of volume could sustain 2 tight ends that are playable. Their wrs suck though and aren’t playable.
I’m curious if qb play will improve over the year. Week 1 was straight trash from almost all of them which then lead to down weeks for the receivers. I’m betting it improves as we go but there are a lot of terrible qbs in the nfl
Picking puka early was a mistake in a 14 team league
I want to see how the cards use Marvin going forward. I’ve got him and Kyler in both leagues as a stack. If they don’t get it together I’m have to go to my deep bench in one league and likely break up the stack in my other
I think the ravens even with lack of volume could sustain 2 tight ends that are playable. Their wrs suck though and aren’t playable.
I’m curious if qb play will improve over the year. Week 1 was straight trash from almost all of them which then lead to down weeks for the receivers. I’m betting it improves as we go but there are a lot of terrible qbs in the nfl
Picking puka early was a mistake in a 14 team league
I want to see how the cards use Marvin going forward. I’ve got him and Kyler in both leagues as a stack. If they don’t get it together I’m have to go to my deep bench in one league and likely break up the stack in my other
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