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Climate Change!!! A glacial dam gave way in Alaska. Flooding ensued. But...

Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:13 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:13 am
This is a 19 paragraph article steeped in climate alarmism ... but ... wait4it
quote:

When a Glacial Dam Burst, an Alaskan Town Was Hit With a Sudden Flood
From Alaska to Peru and the Himalayas, glacial lakes are suddenly breaking free and causing deaths and millions of dollars in damages

by Rudy Molinek
September 9, 2024


Around 3:30 in the morning on August 6, the first arrivals made their way into the emergency shelter officials had set up in a school gym in Juneau, Alaska.

“We were getting people in that were covered in glacial silt and soaking wet in their pajamas,” says Robert Barr, Juneau’s deputy city manager. “It was folks who lived so far inland, so far away from the river, that they just weren’t expecting to get water.”

Over the previous 24 hours, the Mendenhall River, which runs through Alaska’s capital city, had risen to a peak of about 16 feet above normal levels. The flood inundated houses and apartments blocks away from the riverbank, surprising residents who lived so far away from the river they didn’t expect flooding—even after a warning. For the second year in a row, the city experienced a record-breaking flood in early August. But these floods didn’t follow heavy rains or snow. Instead, they came as a lake held back by the nearby Mendenhall Glacier released more than 14 billion gallons of water in a matter of hours.
...

“They’re really dynamic systems we don’t know much about,” says Bri Rick, a glacial scientist at the Alaska Climate Adaptation Science Center who studies glacial lake outburst floods in coastal Alaska and published an inventory of past Alaskan floods in 2023. “There’s no hard and fast rule about how they’ll behave.”
...

Outburst floods, just one of many natural disasters influenced by climate change, have killed thousands of people and caused millions of dollars in damages. A warming climate and receding glaciers are making it increasingly uncertain how flooding from these glacial lake systems will behave in the future.



Then .... 14 paragraphs in, we are subtly informed that over the past 40 years the amount of outburst flooding ...... declined!
quote:

In the Alaska study, Rick and her fellow researchers found that the number of outburst floods seems to be holding steady in Alaska since 1985, and the average flood size is decreasing. But this regional-scale pattern doesn’t mean individual downstream communities are necessarily safer. Like the recent onset of climate-caused damaging floods from Suicide Basin in Juneau, Rick cautions, “any individual lake can have very different trends or experiences.”

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So in summary, glacial scientists at the Alaska Climate Adaptation Science Center who study glacial lake outburst floods in coastal Alaska admittedly "don’t know much about" them .... but climate change is apparently responsible for ...... decreased flooding since 1985.

It's an EMERGENCY ! ! ! !

This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 11:14 am
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106855 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:18 am to
I stubbed my toe this morning. Damn you Climate Change!!!
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79767 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:23 am to
Similar to the narrative about hurricanes.

They like to say that hurricanes are getting worse and worse because the damage price tags set records every storm.

There aren't more storms, there are more people and infrastructure on the coasts to get wrecked.

They don't mention that is why we get new damage costs records.
This post was edited on 9/9/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38539 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:24 am to
Bottom line: Buy a glacier and what's under it. 'Thar's gold in them thar glaciers'.

Things come and go.
Posted by fricket
Member since Aug 2019
1193 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:32 am to
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57762 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:42 am to
My favorite is how they are basing temperatures they consider normal on those registered as we came out of the LIA.

The fearmongering:



The reality:



An even bigger picture of reality:

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294425 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:48 am to
Its called a jökulhlaup

Happens every summer, sometimes twice, and climate change has little do to with it.

Last year this happened..

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294425 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Outburst floods, just one of many natural disasters influenced by climate change


Very dishonest. These outburst floods have occurred since the first glaciers appeared.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41937 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:52 am to
Ice melts in August?

Stop the presses !!
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
63950 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:54 am to
quote:

There aren't more storms, there are more people and infrastructure in the coasts to get recked.

They don't mention that is why we get new damage costs records.


And the cost of materials + inflation guarantees the same exact repairs will get progressively more expensive.

It's all a scam.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294425 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 11:57 am to
quote:


They like to say that hurricanes are getting worse and worse because the damage price tags set records every storm.



Suicide basin releases water every summer. A lake forms on the glacier, which eventually lifts the ice enough to flow underneath and into the river.

Tens of billions of gallons get released at once, the last two have been really bad but to attribute the "worsening" issue as climate change is a flat out lie.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

I stubbed my toe this morning. Damn you Climate Change!!!




That was a really good educated guess, but it was Putin.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:09 pm to
Since we are talking about Alaska here is the current Artic ice extent:







Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294425 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Ice melts in August?


Pretty much May through Sept.

The size of the flood has nothing to do with climate change. The basin grows in size every year which is why the last two have had higher volume.

The floods used to occur earlier in summer, dumping less water in the lake.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106855 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

I stubbed my toe this morning. Damn you Climate Change!!!


That was a really good educated guess, but it was Putin.



Climate change caused by Putin's war in Ukraine.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21113 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

“They’re really dynamic systems we don’t know much about,” says Bri Rick, a glacial scientist at the Alaska Climate Adaptation Science Center who studies glacial lake outburst floods in coastal Alaska and published an inventory of past Alaskan floods in 2023. “There’s no hard and fast rule about how they’ll behave.”


Well there ya go bitch!!!
Your chance of a lifetime to study something nobody else has studied!!!!!
See.... There's good and bad to everything! Ole baws just have to stay positive. Lol
Posted by Tr33fiddy
Hog Jaw, Arkansas (it exists)
Member since Aug 2023
1941 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 2:33 pm to
20 years ago it was called global warming. Nothing got warmer so they changed it to the ultimate gotcha...climate change.

It's like saying grass will grow but it's some world ending apocalypse. The climate changes, it's just what it does. If it stayed they same is when we would all be alarmed.
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1409 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

climate alarmism



One of the highest paying scams if you can get in on it.

Write an article, study report, book, or make a film and you are in the money.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16260 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

Climate change caused by Putin's war in Ukraine.



The Putin temperature hike?


Posted by SquaringCircles
Member since Sep 2021
1509 posts
Posted on 9/9/24 at 9:50 pm to
I’m not surprised our lying engineers, who lie as a matter of faith and ethics, as twisted as that may sound and in fact is, would invent a lie to convince us that their de-growth, culling program is good for the planet. I am surprised that so many buy it hook, line, and sinker. I swear all you have to do is pay a man the right price, and he’ll do, think, or say whatever you want him to say. And that’s how the bankers control everything.
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