Walker Kessler "doesn't seem to be part of the Jazz's long-term plan."

Kessler was not very good last season, no surprise here.

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Kessler was not very good last season, no surprise here.

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There's a reason why I want at least two firsts back in any ingram/kessler trade. And I still don't want to do it

Compared to what we have right now he’d be an upgrade. We have no true starting center. Kessler would give us 20 minutes a night of good rim protection but no way I’m giving UtahIngram for Kessler without drat picks coming back to us.

Yeah this is an obvious trade. Overpay a bit and contend vs panic trading for Kessler 55 games into the season so that we can maybe make it into the play in. Throw some swaps at the Jazz. Just get this shite done.

Utah isn't tanking to get Flagg. They're tanking to keep their own pick. They owe OKC their 1st round pick if it lands outside of the top 10.

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I keep asking this. Why would Utah want Ingram, who wants a max deal? Are they a contender if they add Ingram? So two near max guys and I'm not ever sure if they make the playoffs. The Jazz want Flagg. They are tanking this season.

I can totally see us trading for Kessler using 2 1sts. I guess we would throw I'm some other bench guy to match salaries (I just hope it isn't Alvarado). But this should have been done by now. I don't know what we are waiting for..

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Obtaining Kessler would not entail trading BI. It would more likely include Hawkins.

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2. Link to the Jazz wanting to tank for Flagg

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Really? All you have to do is Google "Utah Jazz, Cooper Flagg". There are hundreds of articles, posts and videos (two examples below)

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As someone already said, they have to be in the top 10 to keep their own pick. They also have two additional 1sts that will most likely be late picks (Cavs and Wolves). They do have some attractive players for teams that are borderline contenders that may have injuries, like Kessler, Sexton, Clarkson, Collins..

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The it's pretty well known that despite Ainge favoring a tank, the owner wants to win now.

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Ainge is winning that fight. They are no where near ready. They can claw to 40 wins. But they did nothing to bolster the roster to make a run. They had the assets and flexibility to make several big moves, if they were going to win now. They didn't do that. Plus all their starters are on the trade block (except Markkanen). It seems like a young team that is still building.

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You can not be a non-shooting 7-footer in today's NBA and a poor screener and be a factor on a good team,” MacMahon said. “He has to master the art and science of screening. That should be the primary focus this offseason. I don’t need to preach the value of the screen in Salt Lake City. The screen was the most popular thing in Utah for the last six or seven years of [Rudy] Gobert’s career.”

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sounds like a better defensive Jaxson Hayes.

His averages through 138 games:

23min/ 69% fg/ 8reb/ 8.7pts/ 1ast/ 2.4blks

His per 36 is 13.5pts/ 12.4reb/ 3.7blks
Along with only 1.4TOV and 3.4PF....

Worth 2 firsts? Probably
Worth Hawk+ 1st? Probably
Worth Missi+ JRE+ 1st? Yes
Worth Missi+ Hawk+? Sure
Missi + Hawk + 1st is probably

The negotiations might be stuck at Hawk + Missi + 1st. Or (2) 1st + Hawk/ Missi. The hint being "Utah values Kessler at (3) 1st".

I watched a podcast with the Jazz play by play guy, where they talked about adding Ingram. They weren't excited about it, and were concerned how it limits them going forward. According to him, they are targeting either next summer or the next to go all in for a run. Keeping Markkanen was important, as a 2nd or 3rd piece. For that to work, they need to hit in the draft. They will load up as many picks as possible, while giving playing time to as many as those young players as possible, to develop them. Those other vets will get flipped over time. They lost with them last year and didn't get better..