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Installing Vinyl Plank Question

Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:15 am
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
762 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:15 am
I will be removing old carpet and laying down LVP for our nursery. Home Depot had some decent options regarding price, but I had also looked at Halpins. The lady there told me I needed to lay visquene down on my concrete slab before laying the vinyl down, however everything I’ve read or watched for install, says the moisture barrier backing of the vinyl is sufficient. What should I go with?
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
11203 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:22 am to
I did this in my house last year. 1200 sq ft of it and it was very easy and came out looking great. I read conflicting opinions as you did, I ended up just doing the visqueen to have that extra piece of mind.

I bought from Daltile and they recommended it.
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
762 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:42 am to
I only have a 100 sqft bedroom to do. What is my “worst case” scenario of not doing the visquene?
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7231 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:53 am to
I think different manufacturers have different recommendations. I'd read your specific instructions for your product.

My house is pier and beam. Whole house was installed with LVP, no visqueen. 2.5 years later, no issues.

Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
6450 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:09 am to
I've done LifeProof from home depot on a slab. Didn't use visqueen. Never had any issues.
Posted by Tmar1no
Member since Jan 2014
513 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:29 am to
We got moisture up through our slab (possible AC sucking it up or high water table) that ruined our previous flooring (black mold spots popping up all over). We pulled up 1200 SQFT sealed the slab with sealant, put visquene, and used LVP with the moisture proof backing.

You never know how much protection you need until you need it.

Visquene is cheap.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5722 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:35 am to
If it's on concrete, I'd put a vapor barrier down first.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
822 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:41 am to
Moisture weeping up through slab is a common problem. First check to see if a plastic barrier is built into your slab. On my house you can find exposed small bits of heavy black plastic sticking out of the concrete mostly in corners where it was harder to trim the excess. Second, if no built-in barrier check for weeping. A common test is to lay a square of clear plastic sheeting directly on an exposed section of slab...maybe 5'x5'. Tape or weight down the edges and wait a few days. If the covered slab gets damp or you get condensation under the sheet you need a barrier. Weeping is most likely next to an outside wall.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38125 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Home Depot had some decent options regarding price, but I had also looked at Halpins.


We install LVP quite a bit and LifeProof from HD is about as good as it gets. We've found it to be much better than more expensive brands (though LifeProof isn't really cheap itself) from other flooring stores.

You don't have to have it, but it's a small area, the cost is going to be minimal.
Posted by Tiger328
Member since Mar 2017
762 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:00 am to
My house was built by DSLD and they did have the plastic barrier before pouring the slab
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38125 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:53 am to
quote:

My house was built by DSLD


Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
183 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:28 am to
Read the instructions for lifeproof. They say it’s not needed but have requirements if you do. Otherwise you could void their warra
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
86648 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:49 pm to
You can pick up a 2 in 1 for like 100sf at home Depot for like $40. I would put it under the LVP just for inexpensive peace of mind
Posted by Rocklicker
Member since Aug 2016
176 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:13 pm to
I would go with some form of underlayment depending on your particular LVP that you have.

Floor and Decor
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
60611 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

sealed the slab with sealant


This is the best way.
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2621 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 10:11 am to
DMX 1 step

I'd shop DMX 1 step. It provides an air gap between the plank and the floor so that moisture can escape. I used it recently in my raised house.
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
48 posts
Posted on 8/8/24 at 10:15 pm to
110% put moisture barrier. Contractor didn’t on install (conflicting info per contractor; I read installation manual which states to use it in high moisture environments) and they popped up after a year. Get the lovely task of ripping out and replacing flooring for basically the entire house this fall. Not sure specifically which LVP you have, ours specifically was stone composite core which is brittle. When the moisture caused it to warp, the locking mechanisms cracked off causing the movement.
Posted by leftovergumbo
Member since May 2018
511 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:00 pm to
Use the Visqueen. My wife worked at a flooring store and they wouldn't sell the LVP without it.

I installed LVP on a slab years ago and read the same conflicting arguments as you. Went with no barrier, and it lasted 2 years before it warped.
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
11203 posts
Posted on 8/9/24 at 2:02 pm to
Save $15?
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4748 posts
Posted on 8/10/24 at 8:21 am to
Tape all around a 2’ square of visquine to the slab. See if you see any condensation 48 hours later.
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