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Could the Nissan brand be saved in the US?

Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:31 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33053 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:31 am
Right now, Nissan has a fleet full of second rate products that sell to people who can't easily get credit. They are often sold by idiots, driven by fools, underinsured, and not maintained at all. They trail far behind their Japanese and American competitors on the used car market for that reason. These vehicles are frequently mechanically totaled well before 100,000 miles with broken transmissions and severe bodywork issues.



It's a massive fall from the Nissan of the 1990s - when their new products were considered sturdy and they were often a good used buy.

The "Big Altima Energy" meme fits the brand perfectly. These memes frequently feature a dangerously driven late model Altima that's poorly maintained with mismatched wheels, bumper cover flapping in the wind, and missing body panels.




Most semi-educated buyers avoid anything with Nissan's CVT, which is all but 2 of their mainstream products. Their variable compression engines are turning out to be just as problematic, and they've already propagated through most of Nissan's product line.

Since Nissan canceled production of their Titan truck, they have only two real products that appeal to younger, semi educated, employed people with good credit: The Nissan Z car (which sells in very low numbers) and the Nissan Frontier, which has already become the most outdated option in its class.

They've spent a lot of money on their electric vehicles, but have somehow been surpassed by not only Tesla, but also Geneal Motors and Hyundai. At this time, their EV offerings remain outdated and stale. Sales also are slowing down for all EV's.

Without full sized trucks and SUVs, how can Nissan realistically improve their brand, their dealers, and the type of audience they attract?
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15704 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:33 am to
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Big Altima Energy


The Big Altima Energy facebook group is one of my favorites.
Posted by swamptiger99
Member since Aug 2024
373 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:35 am to
The poor's still need vehicles
Posted by FizzyPop
350 posts
Member since Jun 2024
794 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:35 am to
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Nissan Altima


4 bans, 8 admin emails, and 16 turn signals defective.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:36 am to
Unless they cancel all their crappy products and bring back the things that people liked, Nissan will eventually become what Mitsubishi was around 2000-2005.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Mitsubishi on the road. They used to be somewhat popular too.
This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 8:37 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17337 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:40 am to
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Since Nissan canceled production of their Titan truck


Foolish. Instead of making the latest generation less ugly they pulled the plug. That was the only Nissan that middle aged people with gainful employment even halfway considered anymore.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
13849 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:45 am to
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Most semi-educated buyers avoid anything with Nissan's CVT, which is all but 2 of their mainstream products. Their variable compression engines are turning out to be just as problematic, and they've already propagated through most of Nissan's product line.


I bought a Murano when they first came out. Loaded with every option. Actually a very nice car. It’s when the CVT also first started getting used. Sure enough, not long after it hit 100k miles it went out.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
34398 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:47 am to
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That was the only Nissan that middle aged people with gainful employment even halfway considered anymore.


ahem

Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129420 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:49 am to
Id buy a frontier if i needed a smaller truck

Still uses a basic v6, simpler powertrain and cheaper than competitors

Unlike other trucks going to turbo charged stuff
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2855 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:50 am to
Legit question because I'm ignorant about the industry in general.

Why is it that Nissan has such a poor reputation in America when most other Japanese car companies are respected?
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6511 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:51 am to
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ahem


FUGLY but quick
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129420 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:51 am to
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Why is it that Nissan has such a poor reputation in America when most other Japanese car companies are respected?


The Dodge Charger effect
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
136128 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:53 am to
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Id buy a frontier if i needed a smaller truck

Still uses a basic v6, simpler powertrain and cheaper than competitors

Unlike other trucks going to turbo charged stuff


And it's a good looking truck. Had they made a larger version of a Titan with the V8 they might could still be a player.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4849 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:56 am to
Frontier is great, the only negative I hear is that the fuel economy is very poor compared to the other trucks in its class.
Solid and long lasting and a good looking vehicle.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13535 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:57 am to
I see a lot of big Nissan SUVs on the road like the Armada.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8194 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 8:59 am to
Altimas are the best-selling vehicle in a bunch of different states, so I believe that Nissan will be okay.

It's impossible to ride around Atlanta for more than 30 minutes without almost being mowed down by a busted-arse Altima.

This post was edited on 8/5/24 at 9:02 am
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7006 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:00 am to
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Frontier is great, the only negative I hear is that the fuel economy is very poor compared to the other trucks in its class.


Has the turn radius of a battleship otherwise great truck
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:02 am to
I loved my Xterra and would instantly look at them if they came back out.
Posted by Colonel Angus
Member since Aug 2007
2138 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:05 am to
I had a Pathfinder (back when they were actually a true 4WD SUV and not a minivan). Bought it new in 2001 and drove it for 12 years putting 190,000 miles on it. Very few problems other than it needed a valve job when I sold it. Loved that rig. Got me out of many muddy hunting fields.

That's all I got.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86461 posts
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:06 am to
Frontier and Pathfinder are really good vehicles. No comment on the cars.
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