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Decreasing effective tax liability
Posted on 7/24/24 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 7/24/24 at 2:29 pm
Need some advice from the board. Our family's federal tax liability has crept upwards the last five years and is at a point that I find completely unacceptable. Does anyone have any strategies for reducing tax liability outside of the traditional methods? We max out 401(k) contributions already.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 3:04 pm to Antonio Moss
-Owning a (legitimate) side business offers greatest tax advantages
-529 for kids
-Max HSA if available
-FSA if available/needed
-Homestead exemption
-Defered income plans
-Brokerage losses can offset some capital gains
Owning a revenue generating business provides greatest quantity and quality of tax mitigation levers
-529 for kids
-Max HSA if available
-FSA if available/needed
-Homestead exemption
-Defered income plans
-Brokerage losses can offset some capital gains
Owning a revenue generating business provides greatest quantity and quality of tax mitigation levers
Posted on 7/24/24 at 4:24 pm to Antonio Moss
Need details. W-2, K-1, 1099, INT, DIV. What are the income sources? What’s your current rate?
This.
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Owning a revenue generating business provides greatest quantity and quality of tax mitigation levers
This.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:06 pm to Antonio Moss
If you’re a regular employee there is nothing you can really do to lower your income outside of the basics.
There are, however, various ways to invest that help minimize your new income.
There are, however, various ways to invest that help minimize your new income.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:44 pm to Antonio Moss
If you're contributing to Roth 401k you could switch to traditional.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 10:11 pm to Antonio Moss
Pay a licensed professional
Posted on 7/24/24 at 10:31 pm to Antonio Moss
You could lie or stop paying altogether.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 7:03 am to SwampCollie
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Owning a revenue generating business provides greatest quantity and quality of tax mitigation levers
Make sure any deduction is legitimate.
The idea that you can call whatever a business expense is overblown.
They love to audit 1099 type businesses.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:48 am to Antonio Moss
After the Trump tax cuts, there is not much a W-2 employee can do. Limits on deductions for mortgage interest, state and local taxes were designed to hurt blue states, but they had an impact on us, too. Even charitable donations are not a big tax benefit anymore. The 2017 tax cuts reduced the marginal tax benefit of giving to charity by more than 30 percent, raising the after-tax cost of donating by more than 5 percent. Using part of your home as an office or owning a business and writing tons of things off are items thrown out as ideas, but they are inviting an audit.
Max out 401k for both spouses, HSA, legit business write offs that are documented and do not go to extremes all help, but getting an effective tax rate below 20% for anyone making $250-750k is not easy anymore.
For me, by far the best way to reduce tax liability is by paying a good tax professional to handle my taxes.
Max out 401k for both spouses, HSA, legit business write offs that are documented and do not go to extremes all help, but getting an effective tax rate below 20% for anyone making $250-750k is not easy anymore.
For me, by far the best way to reduce tax liability is by paying a good tax professional to handle my taxes.
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 9:52 am
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:49 am to SwampCollie
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Owning a revenue generating business provides greatest quantity and quality of tax mitigation levers
As a small business owner I'd love to hear some strategies you suggest.
Sure my truck, my phone, and my insurance are paid by the business because I use them all for business all day every day as a full time job that's regularly out of the office.
But this idea that a small business owner just gets major tax advantages is somewhat absurd. If you are W-2 employee your employer pays 5-7% of your tax burden, as an example. That's a solid advantage of not working for yourself.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 12:04 pm to baldona
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As a small business owner I'd love to hear some strategies you suggest.
Full disclosure: Not legal or financial advice. I pay a CPA, you should too. If they can't save what they cost or more they suck or your business isn't a business.
Totally depends on the business. But couple ideas:
- SEP IRA / 401k: much higher contribution limits
- Life expenses: within reason - lunch, golf, outings etc with potential clients, customers or investors.
- Travel: lots of savings and dedutibility to mix vacations into a work trip. "Work" legitimately on Fri & Mon and enjoy wknds in cool places w/ deductions.
- Vehicle: accelerated depretiation on vehicles over certain weight
- Prepurchasing inventory and equipment at end of year.
- Augusta Rule - look it up. I don't do this but some choose to.
- Clothing - heat transfer your company logo on clothing for everyday wear etc.
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 7/25/24 at 12:09 pm to Antonio Moss
Is your effective tax rate? If you are W2 employees, there are limited ways of limiting your tax liability.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 1:49 pm to SwampCollie
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- Life expenses: within reason - lunch, golf, outings etc with potential clients, customers or investors.
I’d be very careful in this area.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 1:58 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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you're contributing to Roth 401k you could switch to traditional.
At less than 200k of income I believe you have to do the Roth 401k (are not eligible for the Traditional and deduction). The intent there being to prevent upper income people from deferring too much W2 income
The IRA is different. You lose the deduction for the IRA contribution in the 100ks of income but can still contribute to the Traditional. You can not directly contribute to a Roth IRA at that income range but can still do a backdoor Roth conversion provided you don't run afoul of the conversion tax rules (pro rata rules)
Posted on 7/25/24 at 2:07 pm to SwampCollie
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529 for kids
This can be a big one Especially if you want to save for college or graduate school anyway
Last time I looked you could do up to five years at a time per child.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 2:15 pm to Antonio Moss
Donate to your favorite charities like UNICEF or the DNC.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 3:05 pm to molsusports
529's are only state tax deductible and it has to be for the state you live in, correct?
Posted on 7/25/24 at 3:07 pm to baldona
529s do zilch for federal income tax savings. Depending on the state, it may help with state income taxes.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 7:06 am to SwampCollie
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Life expenses: within reason - lunch, golf, outings etc with potential clients, customers or investors.
Will you please explain to me how you are properly writing off “golf outings, etc., with potential clients, customers or investors” after the 2017 Trump tax cuts? I am most interested in hearing this.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 7:14 am
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