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Did Shooter's Rifle Have a Scope?

Posted on 7/20/24 at 5:34 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 5:34 pm
As with most everything in this situation there are varying reports on basic details. FOX News reported this:

"The Secret Service sniper who killed Crooks could only see Crooks' gun SCOPE and the top of his eye and forehead because the lip of the roof was blocking the sniper's view."

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The (blurry) images I have seen of the shooter's rifle suggest that he didn't use a scope.

Anyone know whether or not his rifle had a scope? Thanks.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 5:40 pm to
We’ve heard non magnified red dot but then he could have had a magnifier with it. Magnifiers can flip to the side like on a hinge. There are pics where it seems difficult to scopes on top.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 5:43 pm to
The only thing I have heard that is specific is that he had an Eotech on the rifle. Supposedly it was from an anonymous source within the secret service, but I have seen nothing confirmed.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 5:56 pm to
Thx. I have appreciated your expertise.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 5:59 pm to
I saw a pic and it looked like Eotech with magnifier
Posted by oldhickory1812
nashville
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 5:59 pm to
There is so much disinformation, we might never know the truth.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

I have appreciated your expertise.


His what!? Lmao
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

I saw a pic and it looked like Eotech


same thing I thought as well
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:08 pm to
A scope would be rendered useless on that steep slope.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5241 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

His what!? Lmao


Chad, I appreciate your questions and research. Nice thing about this site: I don't have to rush to judgment as to which of you is correct.
Posted by TigerRoyale
Zwolle
Member since Oct 2023
778 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:12 pm to
How he missed at 100 meters is divine intervention.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:15 pm to
No way he hit Trump with no magnification. Trumps head would look like a grain of sand at that distance.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

No way he hit Trump with no magnification. Trumps head would look like a grain of sand at that distance.


It would have made it a much tougher shot, but 120 yards isn't THAT far. From memory a front site post is about 8 MOA, so at that distance it would have been about as wide as Trump's head, around 10". With young eyes that's doable with practice.

I no longer have young eyes.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:30 pm to
Yes

LINK

quote:

The Secret Service sniper who killed Crooks could only see Crooks’ gun scope and the top of his eye and forehead because the lip of the roof was blocking the sniper’s view.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:34 pm to
Correct.....we will never know the facts!
Just like all political scenarios......the truth is elusive.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:51 pm to
157 yds for crooks
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

A scope would be rendered useless on that steep slope.


The roof angle was 8.25. Hardly a pitch at all.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5241 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

157 yds for crooks


Chad, I don't want to start a new thread, but you seem well-versed on the various theories. Do you think there's any doubt that Crooks was a shooter?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

Do you think there's any doubt that Crooks was a shooter?


The doubts and question is if crooks was the guy that made the 1st 3 shot in rhythm volley. Audio analysis says absolutely not.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5241 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 6:59 pm to
But you think the evidence points to him as taking SOME shots? If so, which ones?
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