re: Did Shooter's Rifle Have a Scope?

You are welcome. I hope that cleared up a few things. An Eotech dot will not completely cover an 8” target, i.e. a human head, at 130 yards.

An Eotech would have been perfectly capable of making the shot had the skill and nerves of the shooter been up to it.

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because this site is infested with imbeciles. It’s shameful.

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100%. Appreciate the comment.

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Shots 1,2,4,5 of the 2nd volley

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Precisely.

They were a bunch of poor shots. Spraying and praying I guess.

First volley of three shots were fired from inside the building where the local police were directly below Crooks.

The second volley of 6 shots had 2 or maybe 3 different weapons at distinct locations from each other and from the first volley of 3. Most likely Crooks (or someone) fired 1, 2, 4, and 5 of that second volley… with shots 3 and 6 of that second volley possibly being a distinct shooter or two distinct shooters.

The last shot fired about 10 seconds after the second volley was the SS counter sniper shooting Crooks.

It’s important to realize all the 3 shots of the first volley and all 6 shots of the second volley were aimed at President trump or at least in his direction due to the microphones picking up the sonic boom of the bullets prior to the report of the gunpowder.

How they shot at him 9 times and missed all but one it’s hard to fathom. The first shooter must’ve had buck fever and just missed. That guy will get killed by a mugger in an alley very soon if he didn’t already. They didn’t let Crooks shoot first though because they didn’t want to take a chance he’d miss. Joke is on them.. their professional missed and then the two backups and Crooks each got to sling some lead.

I hope orange man fires them all in January!

You are completely arse backward on my post so let’s try again.

I was clear that in good light, dark backdrop, stable rifle, above average shooter, clear target, great vision, it’s very doable with no magnification.

But he’s a novice with coke bottle glasses with the sun in his face, full sunlight, on a white roof, red dotting a moving dude in a red hat at 500 ft among thousands of others in red. He’d have to have his brightness up way too high to get a sight picture of the head around his dot, imo. Not an easy shot, especially knowing he’s made, likely about to die and about to kill a president. All I said.

Is that ok with you, Wyatt Earp? Because I know everyone on here makes that shot blindfolded, so I have to be super specific.

And, as if this needs to be said again, the counter sniper confirmed he had a scope, so it doesn’t matter any way.

I don’t trust the IC but I’m not ready for all that shite either.

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I am sorry you look silly now but it was you who posted obviously false and easily refuted statements.

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GTF out of here google boy. lol

Wait, so your jab is that you were wrong about things that can easily be found on Google?

Then why didn’t you use Google before you posted things that make you look like you have no idea what you are talking about?

That is quite the conundrum:

Then why did you post this?

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Elite shooters can group a fist size at 100yds in perfect conditions fully stabilized

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That is just wrong.

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It’s not wrong

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You are saying you can go win a service rifle competition or Palma match by shooting a 4 MOA group.

That is easily verifiable.

We can post some results. It will be the same as your “the dot would cover his whole head like a garbage can lid” and “Trumps head would look like a grain of sand at that distance”.

Or this one.

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They are not recommended for those distances

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Yet, Eotech makes models with multi dot reticles designed for shots beyond 100 yards. Their 4 dot reticle is designed for 100, 200, 300 and 400 yards shots. I bet you Eotech would recommend them. There are a lot of people that would. A lot of really good and experienced shooters will tell you the best all around optic set up for an AR is an Eotech with a magnifier. It will do everything a person needs from point blank to 400 or 500 hundred meters. And we don’t know if Crooks had a magnifier. Some people think they see one in the picture of him with the rifle. Looking at it, I can see something black behind his optic. I can’t tell if it is an optic or just a dark shadow in the background. But in the Herrera video, he mentions how the optic is so far forward. Perhaps because he had a magnifier mounted behind it?

I don’t disagree with you that most people are not good shooters. I am not a particularly good shooter anymore due to old eyes and lack of practice. For a lot of people a 5-6” group at 100 yards is good. We have all seen them. They roll up to the range and stick an 8” target up at 100 yards. If they hit it, they call it good enough. And depending on their style of hunting and average shot distance, it very well may be.

But you keep saying it isn’t even possible to shoot better than that. That people aren’t capable. That the equipment isn’t capable.

You are saying it isn’t possible to consistently hit the vitals of a deer past 200 yards with iron sights, red dots or holographic sights. Yet people were making those shots prior to magnified optics for hundreds of years. And with much shittier equipment than we have now.

A lot of what you have posted is just not true. And it is very easy to prove. Avid shooters already know this.

We don’t know what kind of shot Crooks was. But he was a member of a range. So it wouldn’t be a stretch to think he had some practice. Heck, according to the official narrative, Crooks told his parents he was going to the range that day.

I think a lot of these “it was an impossible shot” statements are being made because, for some reason, people want there to have been a second sniper very badly. The problem is that if you go with that theory, Trump would be dead. A trained sniper does not miss a 130-150 yard shot at a 6” target. Like Tim Kennedy said, there are a lot of 12 year olds in Texas that would make that shot 10 out of 10 times. I would expand that and say there are a lot of kids all across the south that would. Go to Montana or Wyoming and those kids probably make the shot at 250 yards. Yet a highly trained sniper missed? And not just one shot, but all their shots? Come on now.

It wouldn’t surprise me if someone groomed this kid. It wouldn’t even surprise me if someone planned it and provided cover so he could get the shots off. That could be a reason so much of his security team were subs that day and why Jill Biden and Kamala Harris just happened to also have events requiring secret service personnel that day. We haven’t heard a peep about who the commander was that day who would have been making final calls. He/she should have made the call to confront the suspicious person as soon as they saw him using a range finder. And they should not have let Trump walk out on stage knowing there was a suspicious person. It is even more mind blowing that he was seen with a rifle on the roof by law enforcement and they still let him walk out there. But the idea that the real shooter was some highly trained government spook is a bridge too far for me considering they missed and the assassination attempt failed. If this was a government conspiracy, they may have had every expectation that Crooks would make that shot. If Trump hadn’t turned his head he would have.