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re: Did Shooter's Rifle Have a Scope?

Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:42 pm to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:42 pm to
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Chad504boy


Are you the same poster that looks like Little Lord Fauntleroy?
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:43 pm to
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You think that’s a win? There are one or two people on the tower with at least one rifle. I believe you were one of the pathetic shadow yellers. Gtfo. It’s not debunked completely by the analysis he estimates the other shooter to be maybe 100 ft away but that’s not necessarily diving into different fps of different ballistics. Maybe the Bigfoot never shot from tower. You certainly don’t know ahit. I’m open to anything that can be proved. There were many things that never made sense to me from several days ago so I kept digging.


There’s nobody on the fricking water tower dude.

And the unknown shooter in the audio analysis presented as deep state conspiracy is pretty clearly the reported one round fired by local LE.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:43 pm to
Has there been any reports regarding the gun supplier/shop where his old man bought the gun and any other items? He apparently had quite a few guns.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:44 pm to
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There’s nobody on the fricking water tower dude.


That’s cute.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:45 pm to
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And the unknown shooter in the audio analysis presented as deep state conspiracy is pretty clearly the reported one round fired by local LE.


Jesus Christ you’re lost and don’t even know the arguments
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13269 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:45 pm to
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attempted this without magnification.


I am not wading into this argument other than to say that maybe crooks was never intended to be the one to take out Trump. Maybe, he just was a patsy and would hit some of the crowd.

That open window behind crooks still freaks me out. Plus, the trees blocking the view to the famous snipers on the roof. How did crooks know to set up on that side of the building behind those trees?
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:45 pm to
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That’s cute.


Show me. Prove me wrong. I want you to.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13269 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:47 pm to
I wasn't sure if Brandon would do a recreation this soon, but with all the questions it is good to get some expertise and testing done.

I want to know about that freaking open window behind crooks.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:48 pm to
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Show me. Prove me wrong. I want you to.


Lmao. If you’d be honest with yourself about the numerous videos from all sorts of angles on the fairgrounds. The object is moving and there are frames you can clearly make out a rifle. You’re choosing to not go down the rabbit hole. Thats cool. But that doesn’t make you right my friend. I’ve posted several things over the days and continue to find new videos on twitter still to today. I keep looking for videos and slow rolling them all.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
23263 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:52 pm to
That was a good video. I nerd out to stuff like that. Thank you.

And it also lends credence to the story; that the shot that killed Crooks was from the other sniper team with a .308, and not a .300 win mag like was affixed to the tripod of the closer team in the picture we have all seen.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38279 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:53 pm to
That was some bad arse stuff right there. Not sure why the F word was so necessary but some obvious shooters who know their stuff.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:55 pm to
That dude didn't take those shots and it wasn't an ar15
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:56 pm to
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That open window behind crooks still freaks me out.


For all we know, could’ve been opened after Crooks had been killed. We assumed the SWAT ladder was his for the better part of a day.

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trees blocking the view to the famous snipers on the roof. How did crooks know to set up on that side of the building behind those trees?


Drone runs and physically walking the buildings gave him a decent sense of the space. But the video of him crawling up the roof shows him actively using the obstructions with the snipers in place. His ladder was on the opposite side of the awning and he could’ve just as easily went right instead of left if that’s where the cover was.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:00 pm to
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Lmao. If you’d be honest with yourself about the numerous videos from all sorts of angles on the fairgrounds. The object is moving and there are frames you can clearly make out a rifle. You’re choosing to not go down the rabbit hole. Thats cool. But that doesn’t make you right my friend. I’ve posted several things over the days and continue to find new videos on twitter still to today. I keep looking for videos and slow rolling them all.


Stillshot and mark, please. Humor me. I’ve watched that video numerous times trying to understand what you’re seeing. First I’ve heard of a clearly visible rifle on the 160 foot water tower with a blurry logo, so I’d be very interested if you’d show your work.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47530 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:10 pm to
Oh lord. Here come the crack shots! Lol.
I own this same gun with the eotech red dot. That dot would cover his entire head like a garbage can lid at that range. They are not recommended for those distances. Elite shooters can group a fist size at 100yds in perfect conditions fully stabilized, so it’s not impossible, but this kid wears coke bottle glasses and was shooting at a president with snipers painting him. The novice shooter wiuld 100% struggle to see the target without magnification.
No doubt he had a scope.

ETA. Just saw the post confirming he had a scope.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 8:12 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:15 pm to
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Elite shooters can group a fist size at 100yds in perfect conditions fully stabilized, so it’s not impossible


Do you really think that the best an elite shooter could manage at 100 yards is a 5-6” group?

That would explain why you think a 150 yard shot at an 8” target would be nearly impossible with a red dot.
Posted by RustedToyota
USA
Member since Jan 2021
113 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:16 pm to
Interesting video; did you notice that the bullet started to yaw after contact with the ear. Once the spin of the bullet is upset the next impact of the bullet will be devastating.
If crooks was using a red dot the dot size would be a factor in the sight picture, anything larger than a 2moa dot it would cover the target.

The Captain and Chad need to keep it objective.
Thanks to all the posters for their opinions, interesting thread.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10089 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:19 pm to
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Has there been any reports regarding the gun supplier/shop where his old man bought the gun and any other items? He apparently had quite a few guns.


I haven't seen any reporting on that....like so many basic issues in this situation.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47530 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:20 pm to
It’s not. The unenhanced eye simply cannot see what it cannot see. Red dots are subject to bleed and glare. They are probably worse than buis in that application if your eye sight is perfect. At 500 ft a persons head is a blur with 20/20 vision.

This kid didn’t fricking red dot Trump’s ear at 500 feet bro.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 8:23 pm
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