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Phil Jackson and Daryl "Chocolate Thunder" Dawkins on black vs white ballers

Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:03 pm
Posted by Velocity80
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:03 pm
"The black game by itself is too chaotic and much too selfish…. White culture places more of a premium on winning, and less on self-indulgent preening and chest-beating…. In basketball and in civilian life, freedom without structure winds up being chaotic and destructive." - Darryl Dawkins

"White players are more often willing to run patterns and to work collectively. Because of the predominance of blacks in pro basketball, the sport is rapidly disintegrating into a one-on-one sport. There are only five or six NBA teams who play with more than a superficial degree of team unity," -Phil Jackson
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:19 pm to
Reese actions today make so much more sense
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:20 pm to
Blacks are clearly insanely athletic and very gifted but I think there is a good argument the modern NBA is too hyper-individualistic.

You can just compare the NBA to European basketball. It's a completely different style.

I want to say the last "team" NBA title was maybe the 2004 Pistons? (Or 2005)
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 8:22 pm
Posted by mdomingue
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:23 pm to
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Reese actions today make so much more sense


That chick is living rent free in your head
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:29 pm to
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I want to say the last "team" NBA title was maybe the 2004 Pistons? (Or 2005)
2024 Celtics?
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:15 pm to
Late 2000s Spurs played some great team basketball.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:23 pm to
So
Much
Truth
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 10:41 pm to
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I want to say the last "team" NBA title was maybe the 2004 Pistons? (Or 2005)
gonna ignore those Spurs teams? miami and warriors had plenty of team ball.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:09 pm to
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2024 Celtics

Beat a team led solely by two superstars that can't carry their team against a legitimate team top to bottom. Should've been a Boston sweep.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:10 pm to
The league this year set a new all time record for average assists per game.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:21 pm to
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white ballers


Eastern euros drilled in fundamentals out here doing it for the culture
Posted by TankBoys32
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Posted on 7/13/24 at 11:48 pm to
Spurs recent championships was good team ball
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:51 am to
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I want to say the last "team" NBA title was maybe the 2004 Pistons? (Or 2005)
this is dumb
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31941 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:59 am to
It's like yal just ignored the entire 2010s with the beautiful game spurs and the gsw dynasty that emphasized team ball and off ball movement.

Hell, you can argue the same with Denver and Boston too.

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39018 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:00 am to
Those quotes are obviously from the 70s....when the public hated the NBA.

In the Magic and Bird documentary I think it was Bryant Gumbel who said: "when people said the League was too black, what they meant was it was just players, saying I'm gonna get mine, to hell with you."

It changed in the 80s with of course Magic and Bird showing unselfish play as the two biggest stars.

People like watching unselfish play. Bill Walton said he won the Championship with the Trailblazers because they played, as a team while the Sixers had a bunch of stars who played one-on-one.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 1:03 am
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:23 am to
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In basketball and in civilian life, freedom without structure winds up being chaotic and destructive." - Darryl Dawkins


perfectly succinct, perfectly accurate and a connection as to why "sport" is essential
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19562 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:25 am to
You guys love to degrade and hate black people then are stunned when they don't side with your views or vote your political preferences.

It's the weird obsession; you want to hate someone but you want them to entertain you and support you
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:42 am to
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Because of the predominance of blacks in pro basketball, the sport is rapidly disintegrating into a one-on-one sport. There are only five or six NBA teams who play with more than a superficial degree of team unity," -Phil Jackson


This is why I stopped watching the game for a long time. The product was terrible.

Here in the last couple of years with the influx of European players, fundamentals and playing the game we got away from for a while. There are still some outliers, but here in the last two season, I’ve watched more NBA basketball than I have in the previous 15
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:17 am to
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You guys love to degrade and hate black people then are stunned when they don't side with your views or vote your political preferences. It's the weird obsession; you want to hate someone but you want them to entertain you and support you


Nobody shoots, kills, degrades, insults and outright pisses on black people more than other black people.

Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 10:16 am to
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You guys love to degrade and hate black people then are stunned when they don't side with your views or vote your political preferences.

lol

People are stunned because a majority of black people are outright duped by the Democratic Party and still don’t realize they are being used for political purposes and think democrats have their best interests in mind.

It’s absolutely wild that you think the people that black people vote for support them lol
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 10:20 am
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