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Conservatives Go to War — Against Each Other — Over School Vouchers
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:36 am
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:36 am
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:39 am to LSU Grad 2021
Wtf are you talking about? There’s no way you actually graduated from LSU, or if you did, it’s proof DEI watered down the University to the point that it’s now basically BRCC south.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:39 am to LSU Grad 2021
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I’m for less government, but it’s government’s role to provide a good public education,” he said.
This guy is a retard
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:40 am to LSU Grad 2021
Reasonable dispute.
From a conservative standpoint, the argument for would be competition and markets creating optimal outcomes and the argument against is it would be an entitlement program.
From a conservative standpoint, the argument for would be competition and markets creating optimal outcomes and the argument against is it would be an entitlement program.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:43 am to LSU Grad 2021
The goal is to inject meritocracy back into education.
It will never happen unless you break the teacher's union.
Vouchers is a vehicle that might do that.
It will never happen unless you break the teacher's union.
Vouchers is a vehicle that might do that.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:50 am to DMagic
quote:
I’m for less government, but it’s government’s role to provide a good public education,” he said.
It is their role
Maybe it should be, maybe it shouldn't be but currently it is what they do,
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:51 am to novabill
He shouldn’t have said he’s for less government then
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:52 am to Riverside
James Carville is his hero
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:06 am to novabill
quote:
I’m for less government, but it’s government’s role to provide a good public education,” he said.
It is their role
The current model is broken. Govt monopolies on education isnt going to fix anything.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:21 am to LSU Grad 2021
The fact is regressives have made public education in many places untenable for decent people.
The result is we can't have nice things of which public education should be one.
The result is we can't have nice things of which public education should be one.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:46 am to LSU Grad 2021
Public education as a whole is broken— there is no doubt. I love what Tom Sowell used to say about public education— paraphrasing, that if he were racist and wanted to keep blacks as a permanent underclass he would create the American public education system.
The issue with vouchers is there is no evidence or data that shows that vouchers / school choice actually works.
Instead of every student headed to a high school that is a college prep curriculum with some vocational electives, the “choice” should be a technical high school (trades, CDLs, nursing, Rx techs, etc.) or traditional college prep.
Hell, let the state testing determine placement.
But as long as our communities, particular the cultcha communities are broken, our schools will be broken. Schools reflect the communities they serve.
Look at my user name. Our high schools here rival or surpass any private school in LA. Why is that? Katy is a decent, suburban, educated, professional community whose residents want safe neighborhoods and good schools.
Guess what they get?
The issue with vouchers is there is no evidence or data that shows that vouchers / school choice actually works.
Instead of every student headed to a high school that is a college prep curriculum with some vocational electives, the “choice” should be a technical high school (trades, CDLs, nursing, Rx techs, etc.) or traditional college prep.
Hell, let the state testing determine placement.
But as long as our communities, particular the cultcha communities are broken, our schools will be broken. Schools reflect the communities they serve.
Look at my user name. Our high schools here rival or surpass any private school in LA. Why is that? Katy is a decent, suburban, educated, professional community whose residents want safe neighborhoods and good schools.
Guess what they get?
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:41 pm to HoustonTigerNKaty
quote:
The issue with vouchers is there is no evidence or data that shows that vouchers / school choice actually works.
They work perfectly. They allow people who hate their school to go to another school.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:44 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:It is. Giving $60,000 per kid over 12 years sound alot like free shite. Section 8ing private schools.
it would be an entitlement program
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:48 pm to LSU Grad 2021
Stop posting blind links, asshat.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:56 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
and the argument against is it would be an entitlement program.
All of public education is an entitlement program by that definition.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:59 pm to Jake88
quote:
It is. Giving $60,000 per kid over 12 years sound alot like free shite. Section 8ing private schools.
How is it different from giving a free education in a public school other than it being better and cheaper?
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:04 pm to David_DJS
quote:How is being moved to a nice neighborhood from the ghetto different since the money is going to get spent?
How is it different from giving a free education in a public school other than it being better and cheaper?
The potential voucher recipients currently get what they pay for a public education. Others choose to sacrifice to provide their kids a private education. They get what they pay for.
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:08 pm to LSU Grad 2021
This is not conservative, at all
Dont let the cities keep more of the taxes they pay, keep sending their money to the rural areas, So we dont have to pay more for our own schools
Lulz
I bet he doesnt want to compare the tax revenue between the cities and his area. This is as liberal a philosophy as it gets. "Give me want I want, using other peoples money"
quote:
Why should his small-town constituents be subsidizing the private education of metropolitan rich kids? “I’m for less government, but it’s government’s role to provide a good public education,” he said. “If you want to send your kid to private school, then you should pay for it.”
Dont let the cities keep more of the taxes they pay, keep sending their money to the rural areas, So we dont have to pay more for our own schools
Lulz
I bet he doesnt want to compare the tax revenue between the cities and his area. This is as liberal a philosophy as it gets. "Give me want I want, using other peoples money"
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:12 pm to Jake88
Shut up, fig.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 1:15 pm to the808bass
quote:Wow. Convincing argument. I'm swayed.
Shut up, fig.
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