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Archbishop being excommunicated for calling out the pope?

Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:52 pm
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33925 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:53 pm to
frick this current bishop of Rome. He’s a piece of shite!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39768 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:53 pm to
Vigano should be Pope, not the commie that currently is pontiff.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Allister Fiend
Member since Jan 2016
913 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:57 pm to
Current pope is trash. The word of God is the word of God. If you are the head guy you don’t bend knee to some leftist ideology at the detriment to God’s word.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
44013 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:57 pm to
Martin Luther called out the practice of indulgences and was excommunicated for it.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
13226 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:58 pm to
Vigano made an accusation about Pope Francis recently. He said Francis was involved in a former Cardinal McCarrick type sex scandal. A summary was Francis was having sex with and grooming seminarians in Argentina. One of the victims confided in Vigano. I don’t know if any of this is true, but that guy who was involved needs to come forward. I am sure having an Archbishop running around calling the Pope a sexual predator doesn’t make Francis too happy.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
75300 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:59 pm to
The Vatican isn't a democracy, really. But, to do nothing about the likes of Pelosi and other pro abortion pols and then put this guy on trial is laughable. Not my Pope.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70537 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:02 pm to
frick 'em.

/OurCardinal
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:02 pm to
i stand with carlo!
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
31645 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:35 pm to
Not defending Francis per se but crapping on your boss usually isn’t a good career move.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8415 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:39 pm to
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Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano Summoned to Vatican
100% a good possibility

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to be Excommunicated
100% false. CC doesn't do it like that anymore
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12097 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:40 pm to
He should come up with theses and nail it to the church door.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
84890 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:41 pm to
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A summary was Francis was having sex with and grooming seminarians in Argentina. One of the victims confided in Vigano


If this is true, the Vatican is going to say that Vigano violated the sanctity of the confessional.

That’s not a defense of Francis in any way. But what you tell a priest in confidence is supposed to be protected.
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
5643 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:41 pm to
That's what happens when you have a heretic as a pope.
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
5643 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:42 pm to
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Not defending Francis per se but crapping on your boss usually isn’t a good career move.


And not having the balls to do so when your boss is corrupt is pathetic.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:51 pm to
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Martin Luther called out the practice of indulgences and was excommunicated for it.


He did and was. And like Luther as you note, Vigano is exposing much hypocrisy and corruption with Vatican policies and positions. Vigano has had it up to here.

And as we know, mere excommunication wasn't the end of the matter for Martin Luther; he was then a marked man, targeted for assassination by the RCC and Jesuit elements. (we can be sure Vigano has been threatened to shut his mouth already.)

The honorable Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano has been speaking truth to power AND been a thorn in the Marxist-Satanic Pope's side since the beginning. In a sense he may be the Luther of the RCC.

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Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano is potentially being excommunicated for calling out corrupt Pope Francis’ leftist positions on mass migration, globalism, and Marxism


This really is YUGE news. RCCs ought to fall in line behind this brave, principled man. He's on God's side.


This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

quote:

A summary was Francis was having sex with and grooming seminarians in Argentina. One of the victims confided in Vigano


If this is true, the Vatican is going to say that Vigano violated the sanctity of the confessional.


Sure, the Vatican can cite technicalities as a technical loophole and Escape Clause. (Won't help the public backlash one iota. Even with an anticipated news blackout)

This issue should not present any dilemma for RCCs and clergy who value truth and justice.

On one hand: Morality, Ethics / Law

On the other: Organizational Code / Protocol-Procedure Violation

It might now be very "timely" for the Pope to step down over "age and health concerns".


Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23002 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 3:09 pm to
I’m not Catholic and I have not liked a lot of what I’ve heard from him.

That being said, this smells like outrage porn clickbait.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
84890 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 3:21 pm to
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This issue should not present any dilemma for RCCs and clergy who value truth and justice.

On one hand: Morality, Ethics / Law

On the other: Organizational Code / Protocol-Procedure Violation




It’s not that simple.

The sanctity of the confessional is not some “organizational protocol” like a corporate dress code or not taking more than an hour for lunch. It’s a sacred precept of the Faith. If people don’t believe that what they tell their priest in confidence will be KEPT in confidence, then they just won’t confide in their priest.
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
1196 posts
Posted on 6/20/24 at 3:23 pm to
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Martin Luther called out the practice of indulgences and was excommunicated for it.


Just to nuance this a bit, Luther supported the practice of indulgences. What he called out was the abuses surrounding indulgences at the time.
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