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re: Gymnastics - Simone Biles dominant again

Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:16 pm to
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What pissed me off is she knew she wasn’t right and wasn’t going to be able to compete and still went to Tokyo anyways, taking the spot of someone who could actually compete and represent our nation. She became a distraction (i don’t put that 100% on her). Rather than the attention being about the young women who were competing, it was about her not competing.


Couldn’t have said it better.

She even admitted herself that she should have not even gone. But then people wouldn’t have talked about it that much and they would have competed fine without her. So she found a way to be the biggest focus of attention by quitting.

And it wasn’t just a matter of plug and play. They could have constructed the team a bit differently knowing she wasn’t going.

Lsu knowing they won’t have Paul Skenes to pitch will make them have a much different approach vs if they expect him to pitch and then have him leave during a game.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9275 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:23 pm to
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Couldn’t have said it better.

She even admitted herself that she should have not even gone. But then people wouldn’t have talked about it that much and they would have competed fine without her. So she found a way to be the biggest focus of attention by quitting.

And it wasn’t just a matter of plug and play. They could have constructed the team a bit differently knowing she wasn’t going.

Lsu knowing they won’t have Paul Skenes to pitch will make them have a much different approach vs if they expect him to pitch and then have him leave during a game.


Jade Carey Decision

If you remember correctly, Jade Carey was asked to not participate in the team element and was forced to compete independently on a few individual events. She was absolutely screwed out of her moment.

This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
7161 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:27 pm to
I hope that maybe in another 4 years or even 20 years you guys will be able to finally overcome the mental trauma that you went through when Simone Biles pulled out of the 2020 Olympic vault.

I know it was a very difficult time for you.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12725 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:29 pm to
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hope that maybe in another 4 years or even 20 years you guys will be able to finally overcome the mental trauma that you went through when Simone Biles pulled out of the 2020 Olympic vault. I know it was a very difficult time for you.


I’m going to quit posting on tigerdroppings and focus on my mental health. That should allow me to move on. Lololol
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
4007 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:44 pm to
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I hope that maybe in another 4 years or even 20 years you guys will be able to finally overcome the mental trauma that you went through when Simone Biles pulled out of the 2020 Olympic vault.

I know it was a very difficult time for you.


Seems like they are owed something for the mental pain and anguish they were so obviously caused...

"Were you or a loved one caused mental pain and anguish by Simon Biles when she pulled out of the vault in the Olympics in 2020? If so, call 1-800.."
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:53 pm to
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Nothing will change the FACT that she quit on her teammates on the World Stage during the Olympics...especially after we learn it was because she was upset after finding out her BF admitted that he didn't know who she was before they met. I don't want quitters on team USA...



What a dumbass post.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
12074 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:29 pm to
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Interesting they dont just lump nationals and the trials together like track does. Any reason for that? (keep in mind i know nothing about gymnastics)


I think at nationals they name the national team, and it's only national team members that get invited to trials. That's the only explanation I can think of.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
12074 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:31 pm to
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So if she was at such high risk of injury or death, then why did she come back and compete a couple days AFTER she withdrew?

She came back on beam, which is a bit different with regard to the air awareness thing. She did not come back for vault or all-around or floor.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
12074 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:40 pm to
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Eventually all that pressure to keep doing it again and again hits a breaking point.

We saw what happened at that breaking point. She collapsed and walked out after not being her best.


I would not agree with this, but, I'd give it some credence if Tim Daggett wasn't able to see, while she was in mid-air, that she was unaware of where she was. You can see it on her face when she lands. It was like a surprise to her. Regardless of why or how she got to that point, once she was at that point, she had to leave the competition. This was not about her being below the normal level of performance (though her scores were not where most people thought they would be). She was clearly unaware of where she was in space.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
12074 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:47 pm to
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You think other gymnasts are going to come out against her?

If you learn about some stories like Elena Mukhina from the USSR, I think you'll see that the injury concerns are pretty legit. The gymnasts get pretty high in the air. If you come down wrong, it's going to be a real problem.

Mukhina was pressured by a coach to keep doing a certain move. She was short on a rotation and landed on her chin. She never felt safe with this skill and when she landed like that she was paralyzed. This was in an era where they didn't have springs on the floor, or a potent springboard in front of the vault. Gymnasts today will get even higher in the air than in the past.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
12074 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:49 pm to
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Internet D-bags weren't the ones putting GOAT and sequined goats on their uniforms only to quit though.

This is a fair point. When I saw the goat stuff the first time on TV, I knew that was going to be a problem. It's like inviting karma to come live with you.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
12074 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:05 pm to
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What pissed me off is she knew she wasn’t right and wasn’t going to be able to compete and still went to Tokyo anyways


I don't think she knew she would not be able to compete. You still have to remember that at Olympic trials she was still clearly out scoring the other gymnasts. With two all-around iterations, her nearest competitor (Suni Lee) was 2.266 points behind. That's about 1.1 on each run, which is a pretty good margin in gymnastics.

Her first all-around there was over 60 points, which is very high - it was well over 2 points higher than either of Suni's scores. Her second day, however, was lower than either of Suni's scores, and that invites some questions.

Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
12074 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:19 pm to
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If you remember correctly, Jade Carey was asked to not participate in the team element and was forced to compete independently on a few individual events. She was absolutely screwed out of her moment.


I don't think she got screwed. She went to competitions and got an automatic place at the Olympics. If she didn't take it, the US would end up with fewer people at the Olympics. She looked to medal in vault but had a mistake and it cost her, and she was devastated. Then turned around and got gold on floor due to Simone pulling out. Things worked out pretty well for her and the team overall because her status increased the number of Americans at the games and she stepped up to take a gold medal. Hard to say she got screwed out of her moment when she left with a gold medal. They didn't call her part of Team USA but she wore the same leotard, same warmups, and they played our anthem and raised our flag for her medal ceremony. No one looks at her any less because she qualified as an individual competitor. She still represented the US.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12725 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:25 pm to
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don't think she knew she would not be able to compete.


She said herself she shouldn’t have gone to Tokyo.

So if she acknowledges that then she’s admitting there was some level of knowing this may happen prior to going.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15501 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:36 pm to
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Nothing will change the FACT that she quit on her teammates on the World Stage during the Olympics...especially after we learn it was because she was upset after finding out her BF admitted that he didn't know who she was before they met. I don't want quitters on team USA...


1. This is idiotic. You are idiotic.
2. Her husband had zero to do with her dropping out. You're just making shite up now.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
7161 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:38 pm to
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She said herself she shouldn’t have gone to Tokyo.

So if she acknowledges that then she’s admitting there was some level of knowing this may happen prior to going

I disagree.

There are plenty of times in hindsight that I thought "I shouldn't have done ______" because of the result afterwards, not because I had some foresight.

Actually had that thought yesterday after my bet on framber Valdez strikeouts didn't cash.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73416 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:40 pm to
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Simone Biles


A bunch of fat white dudes pretending that this kid let the country down is one of the weirdest things I've seen in sports.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12725 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:49 pm to
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There are plenty of times in hindsight that I thought "I shouldn't have done ______" because of the result afterwards, not because I had some foresight.


This isn’t a hindsight thing that she realized after the fact. She literally said she was going through so much stress and wasn’t in the right space to be competing in Tokyo and should have quit gymnastics way before Tokyo to get right lol

But go on and keep finding reasons to excuse it
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
7161 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:50 pm to
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A bunch of fat white dudes pretending that this kid let the country down is one of the weirdest things I've seen in sports

Black female athlete "letting down" America because of mental health basically hit the bingo card for a lot of conservative sports 'fans'
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20600 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:34 pm to
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Simone Biles


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