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City of St. George - good or bad for the long term future of GBR area?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:04 pm
Mayor SWB looking like deer in headlights trying to figure out where funding is going to come from to run the city that used to be Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:06 pm to TigerFan244
If coupled with a subsequent school district, it will be a positive for the area.
Usable public schools and functional government that actually provides public services would be a great way to stop the outflow of young middle class families.
I honestly don't even know what any negative impacts would be.
Usable public schools and functional government that actually provides public services would be a great way to stop the outflow of young middle class families.
I honestly don't even know what any negative impacts would be.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:06 pm to TigerFan244
I was talking to steve meve about this earlier. It could end up being bad, by creating a huge black hole in bee-arr-uh.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:20 pm to TigerFan244
It can be good provided it’s done right,
We are supposed to be a capitalist society, if SG builds a better city and provides better services then it will be better than what we have now.
It would be even better if good folk in BR recognized the improvements and began to change themselves.
We are supposed to be a capitalist society, if SG builds a better city and provides better services then it will be better than what we have now.
It would be even better if good folk in BR recognized the improvements and began to change themselves.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:24 pm to doubleb
Good.
BR was living an unsustainable lie by supplementing their budget with funds from outside the city. This should make them self examine and spend funds where appropriate. CATS and COA should be first in line.
BR was living an unsustainable lie by supplementing their budget with funds from outside the city. This should make them self examine and spend funds where appropriate. CATS and COA should be first in line.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:28 pm to TigerFan244
Good. Forces BR to make changes to how they run things or else they may lose even more.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:29 pm to TigerFan244
Seems like if you police the shite out of it. Keep it safe and the riff-raff down or locked away. Keep the tax dollars local and do good things with it, you can have possibly the best city in the state.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:29 pm to TigerFan244
The only loss in tax revenue to the EBR budget is from the 2% sales tax, right? Current EBR budget is $1.2 billion; I think they can make work.
I wonder if an increase in property values over time can make up some of that difference.
I wonder if an increase in property values over time can make up some of that difference.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I was talking to steve meve about this earlier. It could end up being bad, by creating a huge black hole in bee-arr-uh.
By additional white flight ?
Brain Drain?
Loss of tax revenue ?
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:32 pm to Indefatigable
quote:
I honestly don't even know what any negative impacts would be.
Basically this would frick the city of BR 6-ways to Sunday and create a black hole that drags all the bordering areas down.
In theory.
I'm pro-STG.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:32 pm to TigerFan244
It will be a great thing. High median income will make for a good school system, good policing, and potential for new business that want to be in the area, but don’t like BR politics. It may even be good for BR with the politicians now having to worry about losing high tax payers. I may be giving BR politicians too much credit though.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:32 pm to ike221
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By additional white flight ?
Brain Drain?
Loss of tax revenue ?
BR becoming a more amplified shithole than it is, removing economy and opportunity that funds the outer-lying areas like STG.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:34 pm to TigerFan244
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Mayor SWB looking like deer in headlights trying to figure out where funding is going to come from to run the city that used to be Baton Rouge.
She and her ilk are the ones to blame.. they take, take, take like there is no end to the free money. Sooner or later, the people who are paying the taxes get sick and tired of carrying the freeloaders who produce nothing but consume everything.
They are no better than locust.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:35 pm to RaginCajunz
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Seems like if you police the shite out of it. Keep it safe and the riff-raff down or locked away.
I'm hoping the very first thing St. George does is put a moratorium on new apartment complex construction.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
If the city of BR had its house in order, that would not be a concern...
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:46 pm to MikeD
quote:According to the list of parish wide millages;
BR was living an unsustainable lie by supplementing their budget with funds from outside the city. This should make them self examine and spend funds where appropriate. CATS and COA should be first in line.
St. George residents don't pay for CATS, that's funded by Baton Rouge and Baker property taxes and federal grants, not the general fund. It was renewed last year so that's not going away anytime soon.
COA is funded by a parish wide property tax and grants, so their funding won't be affected by St. George incorporation either.
Unless I'm completely wrong about this (always a possibility) St. George incorporation won't do shite to cut funds from the bloated budgets of CATS, BREC, COA, etc. (departments/organizations with a dedicated funding souce.) The cuts will have to come from this list (general fund expenditures).
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:47 pm to TigerFan244
People like some structure.
Decently run cities where property rights are protected and the basics are handled (roads, sewer, fire, police) at a reasonable cost. It should be a meritocracy and be no place for social experiments.
Build it and they will come.
Decently run cities where property rights are protected and the basics are handled (roads, sewer, fire, police) at a reasonable cost. It should be a meritocracy and be no place for social experiments.
Build it and they will come.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:49 pm to Indefatigable
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If the city of BR had its house in order, that would not be a concern...
I agree. It doesn't and things could spiral.
Again, I'm pro-STG, just answering the question.
This is like the Nola/Northshore discussions on the same topic. If Nola implodes, the NS is fricked
Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:51 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
quote:
According to the list of parish wide millages;
St. George residents don't pay for CATS, that's funded by Baton Rouge and Baker property taxes and federal grants, not the general fund. It was renewed last year so that's not going away anytime soon.
COA is funded by a parish wide property tax and grants, so their funding won't be affected by St. George incorporation either.
Unless I'm completely wrong about this (always a possibility) St. George incorporation won't do shite to cut funds from the bloated budgets of CATS, BREC, COA, etc. (departments/organizations with a dedicated funding souce.) The cuts will have to come from this list (general fund expenditures).
BR City has been siphoning around $50 million annually in tax revenue from the unincorporated areas to help fund BRPD and BRFD. That lost revenue is going to have to be made up somewhere - potentially by cutting nonessential programs like CATS.
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