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re: 12 Year Old Girl with BPD
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:54 pm to Leotiger725
Posted on 4/29/24 at 1:54 pm to Leotiger725
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I have prayed over her, medicated her, but it only gets worse and worse.
Tough situation, but I can tell you what won't work. Prayer.
Medication and serious therapy with mental health professionals is what she needs. I have a niece with bipolar disorder and it took a while to find the right mix of meds, but once they did she got much better.
Do some serious research on the best doctors and therapists in your area and spare no expense. She won't get better on her own and there is not much you can personally do.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:09 pm to Boondock Saint
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Tough situation, but I can tell you what won't work. Prayer.
Medication and serious therapy with mental health professionals is what she needs. I have a niece with bipolar disorder and it took a while to find the right mix of meds, but once they did she got much better.
Do some serious research on the best doctors and therapists in your area and spare no expense. She won't get better on her own and there is not much you can personally do.
That's not true.
People (including children) who suffer from mental illness have better outcomes when they're connected to the support system a church can offer.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:50 pm to Boondock Saint
quote:Prayer can be just what people need to do in order to deal with these issues. In the end, it probably won’t cure some illness. It will help the individual doing the praying. It’s a form of therapy and meditation all in one.
Tough situation, but I can tell you what won't work. Prayer.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 4/29/24 at 3:57 pm to Boondock Saint
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Tough situation, but I can tell you what won't work. Prayer.
I disagree but not just based on the Judeo-Christian angle. Prayer is a healthy tool not just for hoping for God's intervention... It also has a calming affect attuned to silent and inner reflection. Now if you're waving a crucifix over her and yelling like Robert Tilton, then yeah. It might be a little ineffective. There's never anything wrong with quiet, reflective prayer.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:23 pm to Boondock Saint
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I can tell you what won't work. Prayer.
bullshite. Prayer has worked for in ways that couldn’t be explained otherwise. But I’ve found you can’t just pray when you need something. You yourself have to try to go the extra mile and God will help the pieces come together. You have to pray even when things are good and you have nothing to ask from God. Be consistent, try to better yourself each day and give 100% effort to try to solve whatever problem it is or goal you want to achieve.
Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:03 pm to Boondock Saint
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Tough situation, but I can tell you what won't work. Prayer.
If prayer helps the parent, it also helps the child. Worst thing he can do is give up on her.
Posted on 4/30/24 at 3:01 am to Boondock Saint
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Tough situation, but I can tell you what won't work. Prayer.
I am a non-religious person, agnostic on a good day an atheist on the rest, however, never tell a person of faith not to pray. Even if they are using it as the sole remedy you should only suggest that they pursue other means as well as prayer.
Telling someone not to pray in this situation robs them of two things:
1. As a person of faith if they do not pray and the outcome is not perfect in the long run then they have set themselves up for self-loathing later for not doing everything they could for their child.
2. Persons of faith derive strength and hope from the ritual of praying and if there is anything the OP and their spouse need now it is strength and hope.
Don't overlook the fact that it may be people like us that are wrong.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 4:28 pm to Boondock Saint
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Tough situation, but I can tell you what won't work. Prayer.
Medication and serious therapy with mental health professionals is what she needs. I have a niece with bipolar disorder and it took a while to find the right mix of meds, but once they did she got much better.
Do some serious research on the best doctors and therapists in your area and spare no expense. She won't get better on her own and there is not much you can personally do.
You've given the best advice in this thread and you have an up:down ratio of 1:5. And people wonder why this state is so fricked.
I'd love to be a fly on the wall and get the reality of the situation, because in most cases when this happens and a parent "leaves it up to god", they've also left a lot of other things up to god that might have been better dealt with here in the real world.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:54 am to Boondock Saint
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I have prayed over her, medicated her, but it only gets worse and worse.
Tough situation, but I can tell you what won't work. Prayer.
Medication and serious therapy with mental health professionals is what she needs. I have a niece with bipolar disorder and it took a while to find the right mix of meds, but once they did she got much better.
Do some serious research on the best doctors and therapists in your area and spare no expense. She won't get better on her own and there is not much you can personally do.
This is all true and the best advice in the thread. Praying has psych benefits for many people, but praying will not help lessen the ravages of mental illness for this young girl or anyone with diagnosed mental illness. Sadly, obtuse/unenlightened folks will be defensive, taking the prayer comment as an attack on religion and their church...it is not, but it is reality.
My brother sufferd from schizo-effective disorder (elements of schizophrenia + mood irregularity/disorder such as BPD) for his entire adulthood. There is no cure for mental illness, but it can be helped through intense treatment and medication by the right professionals. I suggest a two-week mental health in-patient stay now, where she can be observed at all times and diagnoses can really be flushed-out. My brother didn't have the benefit of this stay until after, and in response to, a suicide attempt, but it finally provided a thorough diagnosis. It may be learned that the girl has multiple, currently unknown issues which can be diagnosed, such as autism, paranoia, and depression.
Health insurers can often assist in lining-up the right medical providers. Also, explore social security benefits for this girl, as she may qualify at some point to draw through your and/or her mother's SS and Medicare will follow.
And, it's bothersome that some have suggested essentially discarding this girl. Parents need to be fearless advocates for their kids. Her condition is the fault of no human...could be genetic, environmental, pre-birth related, etc...it doesn't matter.
And suicide threats, and all threats, are not to be taken lightly. I speak from familial experience. Report threats to medical professionals and the authorities asap. Remove sharp objects in the home from the girl's access.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 7:34 am
Posted on 5/23/24 at 1:59 pm to Boondock Saint
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but I can tell you what won't work. Prayer.
3 weeks ago my wife(no pics) gave birth to my son. Pretty rough delivery due to shoulder dystocia.
He finally came out as blue as you can imagine, not crying, not breathing, nurses and doctors silent. After it registered to me what was going on I started praying as hard as I have ever prayed in my life asking the Lord to give him life, and as soon as I asked, my son INSTANTLY started screaming and crying.
His collar bone was broken during delivery and had no reflexes in his arm due to nerve damage and was unsure if he would ever have complete function of his arm. 3 weeks later he has full range of motion and is healthy. God is good!
Dont underestimate the power of prayer.
Posted on 5/27/24 at 4:29 pm to Boondock Saint
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Tough situation, but I can tell you what won't work. Prayer.
Do you wake up every day choosing to be a fig?
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 4:30 pm
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