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Who's Responsible For What In Home Construction?
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:10 pm
Currently finished quotes for my new home build. Talked to four framers to try and find the best mixture of quality and price. One of the framers called to see how I felt about the price and I told him that we had decided to go with a different crew. The framer we picked beat this framers price by about $8k. When I told the guy this he asked what all the framer was doing? I told him all the rough framing except for the windows and exterior doors. He stated his price included those items as well as house wrap, roof felt, and ice and water shield in all valley's. I don't know of rough framers doing roof felt and valley flashing (these items were priced on my roofing quote by my roofer as well). Is this common for framers to do? He also asked if the framer was going to install the rake and fascia? I thought that was part of the guys doing the siding responsibility?
All that to say after talking with this guy he has me questioning who does what and I'm just looking for clarification.
All that to say after talking with this guy he has me questioning who does what and I'm just looking for clarification.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:40 pm to GAFF
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All that to say after talking with this guy he has me questioning who does what and I'm just looking for clarification.
every framer i know fully closes a house in with windows and doors with all the exterior sheeting and Tyvek wrapped so its water tight.
i would ask who the worker crews are, if they are all mexicans, they will pretend to not speak english and ignore everything you say. i make sure to specify in my quotes that an english speaking leader is on the jobsite at all times so we have the ability for communication if i see a problem.
you are the customer, you have to tell them what you expect and be sure its written to show the work to be done and any repairs or prep work is clearly described in the quote.
you make a list of what services you want done, then the contractors can give you a price, thats the way to go
anything not specified wont be done, so they need to know exactly what you want, not do what ever they want, because you dont know what they "should" be doing (and ya i get it, thats the point of this thread)
the guy who called back might be wanting a chance to renegotiate to get the job, so tell him to give you a fully detailed quote that explains all materials used and work to be done so you can better understand his quote. and tell him you havent made up your mind yet. and once you see everything he is doing you might change your mind about who has the best price.
worst case is he gives you a detailed quote that you can use to give to the other contractors you get bids from
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 4/27/24 at 4:43 pm to GAFF
Houses I've worked on the framer has always handled the exterior doors, windows, house wrap, and whatever type of roof underlayment. Rake and fascia depends on what type of siding the house has.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 5:02 pm to keakar
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anything not specified wont be done, so they need to know exactly what you want, not do what ever they want, because you dont know what they "should" be doing (and ya i get it, thats the point of this thread)
That was kind of the point. I was well aware of what the framer I chose was doing (it was in his quote). I was just surprised by what all the one I didn’t choose included in his. Especially when it included things that other trades had included in their estimates as well (the flashing). I guess I thought I had a pretty good understanding of “responsibilities” and this guy just threw me off. If anything he has made me go back and reclarify what each persons quote entails. My siding guy quote included “all overhangs” which I took to mean cornice, rake, fascia, and soffit. Now I’m curious if he just meant soffit?
Posted on 4/27/24 at 5:07 pm to GAFF
Don’t let rough framers install windows and doors. Use that 8k and get someone that knows what the frick they are doing.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 6:40 pm to GAFF
Each contractor should spell what they include. This can vary pretty wildly and can lead to some improper assumption.
You hit on a couple with the framers, but I’ve found trim/electricians/plumbing/HVAC to have a lot of questions. Things like appliance installs, cabinet door pulls, HVL and vent piping, hood vent piping/electrical, outdoor kitchen equipment, etc.
As mentioned, it’s always best to either create a detailed request, or ask them to detail out everything that is included. This ensures you are comparing apples to apples and everything is covered.
You hit on a couple with the framers, but I’ve found trim/electricians/plumbing/HVAC to have a lot of questions. Things like appliance installs, cabinet door pulls, HVL and vent piping, hood vent piping/electrical, outdoor kitchen equipment, etc.
As mentioned, it’s always best to either create a detailed request, or ask them to detail out everything that is included. This ensures you are comparing apples to apples and everything is covered.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:28 pm to GAFF
Are you self contracting? I had a rough framing crew that completed walls, joists, and rafters. I had another crew (same company) that did all OSB, house wrap, underlayment, windows/doors, and hardie. The second crew did all boxing/soffit/fascia work. I’d make sure your estimates are comparing apples to apples.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 12:10 am to GAFF
Blacking in a house means. Felt on the roof, exterior doors and windows, and tyvek.
From there, A/C , plumbing and electrical can be started out of the elements. Stages depend on your exterior, brick, vinyl, hardi board, etc.
I once poured a slab, in 46 days, got a final inspection. Around 1400 living.
Another slab to finish 53 days. It was around 1500 living.
From there, A/C , plumbing and electrical can be started out of the elements. Stages depend on your exterior, brick, vinyl, hardi board, etc.
I once poured a slab, in 46 days, got a final inspection. Around 1400 living.
Another slab to finish 53 days. It was around 1500 living.
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