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re: STM baseball coach resigns
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:45 am to MikeHoncho47
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:45 am to MikeHoncho47
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I wouldn't be shocked if travel baseball replaces high school baseball soon.
Travel baseball will never matter like high school ball does though. It’s like comparing minor league to college baseball
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 10:47 am
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:48 am to chalmetteowl
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Travel baseball will never matter like high school ball does though. It’s like comparing minor league to college baseball
Sit in a room of travel ball parents and you won't think this way for long. Of course HS sports should matter more than club sports but these people don't care about the team just their kid.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:07 am to ChatGPT of LA
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The king always draws more attention than the little guys. No way a coach has ever been fired or resigned in high school during the year
STM baseball was very stable for a long time under Ken Roebuck and when he left things got shaky. They had some turmoil with coaching hires and parents going at it culminating in the weird time where they had some STM dads coaching the team on an interim basis. Everything settled down when they brought in Gary Perkins. Coach Perkins was an old school no-nonsense guy that got things under control and STM had a lot of success. Then Coach Perkins retired and Cass Hargis was his replacement. Now this foolishness. Hopefully they can find a replacement and continue the stability STM had under Coach Perkins.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:11 am to redfishfan
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Sit in a room of travel ball parents and you won't think this way for long. Of course HS sports should matter more than club sports but these people don't care about the team just their kid.
If you as travel ball parents and their kids what is more important, getting an offer to a D3 in Arkansas or winning a district championship, the answer is getting the offer. It is all that matters. Sadly winning and losing don't matter either. Parents are crazy.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:29 am to HottyToddy7
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Sit in a room of travel ball parents and you won't think this way for long. Of course HS sports should matter more than club sports but these people don't care about the team just their kid.
There are instances where the travel coach has more influence over the kid than the high school coach. Because the travel ball coach teaches things a different way than the high school coach does.
Even if that travel ball coach works at a different school.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:40 am to MikeHoncho47
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There are instances where the travel coach has more influence over the kid than the high school coach. Because the travel ball coach teaches things a different way than the high school coach does.
Even if that travel ball coach works at a different school.
Travel ball coaches make a lineup and say go. It is about being seen by college scouts. High School coaches actually teach fundamentals and practice. (of course parents need to spend $150 on lesson to ruin the fundamentals being taught by high school coaches). Travel ball is a waste outside of being seen by college scouts. High School baseball actually has meaning and development. Parents don't understand this concept.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:43 am to HottyToddy7
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Parents don't understand this concept
Not at all.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:43 am to MikeHoncho47
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When travel ball became a business, it all went south
My son went to school there about 10 years ago. Travel ball existed but I don't think that it was as big of a deal back then. He did not play baseball but many of his friends did - some made the HS team, some did not. I am sure that travel ball played some role...but I also think that it is just a numbers issue at a school like STM. You have A LOT of kids that play baseball coming into high school, whether travel ball, middle school, rec teams, etc...they all have to funnel down to a much smaller roster. Not everyone can make the team and that leads to some really tough times for many of the kids that didn't make it. My kid played another sport and the "numbers" factor wasn't as big of an issue, but it would have crushed him if he didn't make the HS team. Baseball is tough at STM because you have so much competition to make the team.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 11:45 am
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:47 am to redfishfan
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Especially when it comes to baseball. Everybody and their brother plays travel ball so when kids get to HS they got 70 travel ballers for 25 spots and those daddies that paid all that money for Braxten to play ball get pissy when they realize they wasted their money.
Watch out Braxton was throwing high seventies in little league. Absolutely wrong that he did not get in. frick it, going play at Southside.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:24 pm to Mr Clean
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Played an extremely challenging schedule
Plus, they’ll be in Division I in all sports for the next two-year cycle
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:39 pm to HottyToddy7
quote:I get it, and I believe it. But I also understand this, the district championship won’t pay for a dime of college. All parents should be trying to if their kid wants it, get them in college playing ball. If that means transferring or doing something contradictory to the program, it sucks and isn’t the right thing, but I get it.
you as travel ball parents and their kids what is more important, getting an offer to a D3 in Arkansas or winning a district championship, the answer is getting the offer. It is all that matters. Sadly winning and losing don't matter either. Parents are crazy.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:45 pm to HangmanPage1
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I get it, and I believe it. But I also understand this, the district championship won’t pay for a dime of college. All parents should be trying to if their kid wants it, get them in college playing ball. If that means transferring or doing something contradictory to the program, it sucks and isn’t the right thing, but I get it.
You do realize that D1, D2, and D3 don't offer full rides for baseball. If you want a full ride you have to go JuCo and that isn't even guaranteed. The percentage of kids who get college baseball scholarships to parents who think they should get college baseball scholarships is like 15%-20%. The parents are delusional.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:18 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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STM is one of the top athletic schools in the nation
Settle down there whippersnapper.... The state yes, not the nation.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:44 pm to HangmanPage1
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. All parents should be trying to if their kid wants it, get them in college playing ball. If that means transferring or doing something contradictory to the program, it sucks and isn’t the right thing, but I get it.
The problem is the vast majority of the time doing something contradictory to the program or transferring to another school hurts the kid way more than it helps. Now there are a TON of BAD HS coaches that collect a check. Parents should get their kids in schools with great coaches that run great programs and develop their kids but you should be doing your homework before they even step foot on a campus to avoid having to go against the program or leave.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:52 pm to Kracka
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Settle down there whippersnapper.... The state yes, not the nation.
The STM Athletic Department finished #26 in the MaxPreps Cup last year. I would think that qualifies as being one of the top departments in nation.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 5:27 pm to HottyToddy7
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You do realize that D1, D2, and D3 don't offer full rides for baseball.
Lol this. It’s like 6 or 7 total to be split up amongst the masses, or how they see fit. I mean parent bragging rights are great but in reality your scholarship gets you a month of food at the cafeteria
Posted on 4/24/24 at 7:09 pm to redfishfan
Everyone is badmouthing travel ball, but there are terrible high school coaches that play daddy ball too, especially when those coaches also run travel ball programs.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 7:20 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Everyone is badmouthing travel ball, but there are terrible high school coaches that play daddy ball too, especially when those coaches also run travel ball programs.
Most bad mouthing travel ball have no clue wtf they are talking about and get a lot more development in travel than hs
Just like the dumbass that said travel coaches aren’t making kids run poles to get them in shape
Well no shite because baseball is an explosive sport, so you don’t need to be running poles making them slower
It’s takes like that…shows posters here have zero clue on development
At top HS programs…those are great but there are like 12-15 max across the state, if that and still got tons of politics going on. Don’t have that shite with travel
Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:07 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
My issue with travel ball is that it is watered down to glorified rec ball now. But instead of paying $75 to the local league you pay $5000 to play.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:37 pm to CypressTrout10
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But instead of paying $75 to the local league you pay $5000 to play.
Why do people always insist on exaggerating when it comes to travel ball? Been doing it for awhile and it would take me a couple of years to accumulate a tab like that
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