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LA Gov Jeff Landry's plan to draft new state constitution

Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:36 pm
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:36 pm
Say what you will about Landry, but he hit the ground running trying to make changes.

The Advocate

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Gov. Jeff Landry’s effort to rewrite the state constitution ran into a buzzsaw of complaints during its first public airing Tuesday, with Democrats and one Republican on a House committee expressing concerns that the governor is moving too fast.

Despite those complaints, state Rep. Beau Beaullieu said that the House and Governmental Affairs Committee, which he chairs, will approve his bill next Tuesday to convene a special convention of delegates that would redo the constitution.

Landry and Beaullieu, R-New Iberia, the governor’s point person on the effort, want legislators to approve his House Bill 800 within a month to begin the convention on May 20. Delegates would then have two weeks to draft the new document.

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Beaullieu sought to address the concern by saying that the public would ultimately decide whether to adopt the new constitution. That vote would be scheduled for Nov. 5, the same day as the presidential election and congressional primaries in Louisiana.

Three former state representatives who co-chaired Landry’s transition committee on revising the constitution – Loulan Pitre, Jim Tucker and Neil Abramson – also tried to mollify critics by saying that their plan does not call for adding anything new to the existing constitution that voters adopted in 1974.

Instead, the three men said, their plan is to have convention delegates remove a number of unspecified items from the constitution and put them into statute so that legislators could have greater freedom to change laws.

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That’s particularly important, Abramson said, because policymakers are facing a projected $500 million deficit next year and need more flexibility to make budget cuts if they don’t want to approve a tax-raising measure. Under current law, Abramson noted, lawmakers can only make major cuts in spending by slicing higher education and health care for the poor.

“You don’t have the flexibility to make other decisions,” Abramson said.

Abramson didn’t mention it, but one possible change would be to take the protected spending for K-12 public schools out of the constitution and make it available for cuts.

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The plan by Landry and Beaullieu calls for all 105 House members and 39 senators to serve as delegates along with 27 delegates appointed by Landry, or 171 total. They would meet beginning on May 20 during the final two weeks of the regular legislative session, which ends on June 3.

If the House committee approves Beaullieu’s legislation next week, it would then advance to the full House. If approved there, it would go to the Senate, which hasn’t expressed enthusiasm yet for the measure. It would take a two-thirds vote in each chamber to approve HB 800.

Rep. Mike Bayham, R-Chalmette, voiced the fears of senators by saying that spending much of the final two weeks during the regular session on the constitution at the same time could keep lawmakers’ other legislation from getting considered and winning approval.

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The final two weeks of the regular session are typically when lawmakers are trying to pass major pieces of legislation and the annual budget.

Rep. Candace Newell, D-New Orleans, said holding the regular session and the constitutional convention concurrently would give Landry extra influence because he could trade support for proposed constitutional changes for spending projects in members’ districts.

“There should be a separate special session and not something overlapping with this one,” Newell said.

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Under the bill, measures taken out of the constitution could only be restored to it with a two-thirds vote by lawmakers, which would make it harder to add things back to a document that Beaullieu said is the eighth longest in the country.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
8183 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:40 pm to
So in Louisiana you can only cut spending to education and health care for the poor? Did I read that right?
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Under current law, Abramson noted, lawmakers can only make major cuts in spending by slicing higher education and health care for the poor.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
UNO Fan
Member since Nov 2018
4243 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:41 pm to
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The convention shall have full authority to accept grants, monies, aid, facilities, and services from public or private sources for the purpose of accomplishing its task of framing a new constitution. Any such grants, monies, facilities, services, and donations, as well as the names of the donors thereof, shall be recorded in the record of the proceedings of the convention, and such records shall be open to inspection by any person


You're forgetting the best part. It will be funded by donations! How great
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
50376 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:43 pm to
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You're forgetting the best part. It will be funded by donations! How great


And citizens won’t be allowed to request information pertaining to them. Secret donations will pay for our new constitution. We’re so lucky!
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9745 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:45 pm to
Some how they'll frick this up and we'll end up only being able to cut higher education spending.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7585 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:46 pm to
I think this should have been done in a special session and not in the regular session when they're trying to get budgets passed.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
6573 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:54 pm to
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So in Louisiana you can only cut spending to education and health care for the poor? Did I read that right?


Correct. Been like that since the last time it was changed, since 1974. That was done by the political cronies to make sure that no one could keep the state government in check.

It's time that every part of the government's budget is up on the chopping block.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53122 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 4:57 pm to
That’s crazy that he’s gonna force every citizen to have a billboard in their yard
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11291 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:03 pm to
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You're forgetting the best part. It will be funded by donations! How great


Hoes for hire!
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26653 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:06 pm to
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Delegates would then have two weeks to draft the new document.

That doesn’t seem like anywhere near enough time.

For reference, the US constitution, which remains one of the shortest governing documents in the world, took four months.

I don’t see how they can accomplish this in two weeks while also handling ordinary business UNLESS the new constitution has already been drafted by special interests and merely needs rubber stamping.
This post was edited on 4/16/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21412 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:13 pm to
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Jim Tucker


Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15466 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:45 pm to
FWIW - I did communicate with Beau Beaullieu and volunteered to be a delegate.

My goal is to be the love child of Betsy Ross and James Madison of Louisiana if this thing passes.

And to enshrine an appointment process with term limits for judges.
Posted by Jumbo_Gumbo
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2015
5712 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:51 pm to
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So in Louisiana you can only cut spending to education and health care for the poor? Did I read that right?


You did and this has been the biggest problem in this state forever. I pray this happens, but I’m not holding my breath.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11291 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by shrevetigertom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
4033 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 5:59 pm to
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I don’t see how they can accomplish this in two weeks while also handling ordinary business UNLESS the new constitution has already been drafted by special interests and merely needs rubber stamping.
Why would it have to be drafted by special interests? You don’t think legislators have worked on this?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26653 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:57 pm to
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Why would it have to be drafted by special interests? You don’t think legislators have worked on this?

I’d wager my entire 401k that a member of the Louisiana legislature hasn’t actually authored a substantive piece of legislation in at least a decade.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
4624 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:25 pm to
This is long overdue but Landry isn’t the one I trust to do it correctly.

Given that they’re trying to squeeze it in at the very end of session tells me there’s likely already a draft somewhere.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96443 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 9:28 pm to
The anti-convention people are already buying billboards to attack Landry over this, claiming some bullshite about ignoring the will of the people.

They mad.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21968 posts
Posted on 4/16/24 at 10:56 pm to
Damn near everything else in the state budget is constitutionally protected funding so the legislature can’t touch it. You read correctly.

Does any other state have 5-10 constitutional amendments to vote on in every election cycle? Presidential elections, federal midterms, state elections in odd number years…every one of them has a handful of amendments to vote on
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19390 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 6:52 am to
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And citizens won’t be allowed to request information pertaining to them. Secret donations will pay for our new constitution. We’re so lucky!

If they draft a new constitution, and you don't like what's in it then vote against it when it is put up for a vote.
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