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re: What amazes me about the abortion issue....
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:33 am to 4cubbies
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:33 am to 4cubbies
quote:I specifically operate on the assumption that not a single one of them actually cares about me or people like me.
No politician or political party wants to help anyone other than themselves and their loved ones. I have the self-awareness to realize I can be naive at times and even I can’t deny this reality. It’s truly baffling that there are so many people out there who really believe politicians care about them.
It's not relevant to my vote in any way. I don't care how I think they feel. I don't even really care if they are good or bad people. None of that affects my vote in the slightest.
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Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:34 am to Padme
quote:when he/she is eligible for a birth certificate.
So the fetus only ceases to be a “non-citizen” when exactly?
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Nice attempt to conflate the two
Can you explain how I attempted to do this?
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your second graders might actually buy it.
I only have a first grader and pre-k-er. They don’t know abortion exists.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:36 am to 4cubbies
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It’s truly baffling that there are so many people out there who really believe politicians care about them.
What the frick are you talking about? You vote for people to represent you. Regardless of their intentions, that's how it works.
Maybe after another 40 years in school, you'll get that.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:36 am to Wishing Well
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Child in womb = illegal immigrant.
Which one of these is a citizen of the United States?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:39 am to 4cubbies
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Which one of these is a citizen of the United States?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:39 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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What the frick are you talking about?
I was very clear and direct. Why are you so upset? Jeez. Things aren’t that bad.
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You vote for people to represent you. Regardless of their intentions, that's how it works.
There’s a website that exists that has a political discussion board. People go to this board to debate politics and persuade others that their guy or their team is morally superior and cares about them/their issues. Maybe if you visited it some time, you’d understand my post better.
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Maybe after another 40 years in school, you'll get that.
How many years were you in school before you became enlightened?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:40 am to Wishing Well
Is that supposed to be an answer? When people are backed into a corner here, they like to post emojis.
Like I tell my 4 years old, “use your words.”
Like I tell my 4 years old, “use your words.”
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:43 am to 4cubbies
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There’s a website that exists that has a political discussion board. People go to this board to debate politics and persuade others that their guy or their team is morally superior and cares about them/their issues. Maybe if you visited it some time, you’d understand my post better.
I have no idea whatsoever if the individuals I support are THEMSELVES, "morally superior" or "cares about me". NO ONE has any idea.
AT BEST, I can claim his VOTES represent a morally superior direction. I can only vote based upon how a person says they will vote and how well what they say lines up with what they end up really doing.
That is all.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:44 am to 4cubbies
quote:There's nothing serious to your assertion. You aren't looking for an answer. You aren't being serious. Hence, laughter is the only correct response.
Is that supposed to be an answer? When people are backed into a corner here, they like to post emojis.
There are no words to address your silly comparison.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:45 am to 4cubbies
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I was very clear and direct.
You were rambling against old white dudes again.
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There’s a website that exists that has a political discussion board. People go to this board to debate politics and persuade others that their guy or their team is morally superior and cares about them/their issues. Maybe if you visited it some time, you’d understand my post better.
You shouldn't let people like that drive your views and how you participate in discussion. That puts you on their level.
But hey, post a link to this website and I'll check it out.
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How many years were you in school before you became enlightened?
Well, not 40. If you're trying to go down the road of who is more well-educated, you should turn around.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:47 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Sure, but why? If some Gump knocks up his sister, you don't go to their trailer and murder the rest of their children.
Could it be because most people don't actually believe abortion is murder?
Why what? It not be unfettered?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:52 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:You think everything is about you, don’t you? Shocking.
You were rambling against old white dudes again.
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You shouldn't let people like that drive your views and how you participate in discussion.
What makes you think I do?
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If you're trying to go down the road of who is more well-educated,
I’m not? Jeez you’re really insecure. You’re criticizing me for going to school while implying repeatedly that I’m clueless. I presume you believe you do have a clue so I’m wondering how long it took you to get one.
ETA it looks like you think claiming I’m 40 is insulting? It’s not. I aspire to be 40 someday. Sure beats the alternative.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 11:54 am
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:56 am to riccoar
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Why what?
Why does the majority approve in certain circumstances?
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:56 am to Wishing Well
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There's nothing serious to your assertion. You aren't looking for an answer. You aren't being serious. Hence, laughter is the only correct response.
I’m 100% serious. A fetus is not a citizen of the US and isn’t afforded constitutional protections. Neither are immigrants. Is your position on abortion purely emotional? Or is it grounded in reality?
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There are no words to address your silly comparison.
You can’t defend your position because it’s emotionally driven.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 11:59 am to 4cubbies
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A fetus is not a citizen of the US and isn’t afforded constitutional protections. Neither are immigrants.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:01 pm to 4cubbies
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You think everything is about you, don’t you? Shocking.
You're still assuming I'm an old white dude.
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What makes you think I do?
Your posts.
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You’re criticizing me for going to school while implying repeatedly that I’m clueless.
I'm not criticizing you for going to school. I'm criticizing you for being clueless.
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ETA it looks like you think claiming I’m 40 is insulting? It’s not. I aspire to be 40 someday. Sure beats the alternative.
Not at all. I'm insulting you for being a career student with idiotic views.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:04 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Citizenship is irrelevant unless I was arguing that if I meet an illegal immigrant, I should be allowed to kill him.
I’m 100% serious. A fetus is not a citizen of the US and isn’t afforded constitutional protections. Neither are immigrants. Is your position on abortion purely emotional? Or is it grounded in reality?
Alas, they'll arrest me for that shite too!
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
The last three years are the worst I have ever seen - far exceeding in pure governmental evil than anything that happened in the prior 82 years of my life.
I do not recognize any integrity or morality or competence in any federal agency. In fact, the most conclusion I can reach is that they are motivated by pure evil not seen since WWII and its immediate aftermath.
I do not recognize any integrity or morality or competence in any federal agency. In fact, the most conclusion I can reach is that they are motivated by pure evil not seen since WWII and its immediate aftermath.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:16 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Why does the majority approve in certain circumstances?
Because it covers the rare exceptions one might be needed.
And an overwhelming majority support that option. Only the extreme want it available for a form of BC.
Posted on 4/10/24 at 12:25 pm to 4cubbies
quote:quote:
So the fetus only ceases to be a “non-citizen” when exactly?
when he/she is eligible for a birth certificate.
Well this is a new level to this argument....
Not saying it's a good one, but wow.
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