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re: Some colleges will charge up to $95,000 this year...
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:14 pm to Tasseo
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:14 pm to Tasseo
quote:When schools cite how much financial aid their students get, it always includes all scholarships, including private. They have no motive to under-report how cheap it is to go there.
I hope they are including private scholarships cause no private school should be getting this much govt money.
This garbage needs to end.
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:20 pm to LSUDVM1999
The $90K sticker price means nothing at the wealthiest universities. Only a fraction of undergraduate students pay the full price at Harvard or Stanford or Duke or Vanderbilt. Middle and lower income students at HBCU's graduate with far more debt than those at Harvard.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:25 pm to LNCHBOX
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:47 pm to LSUDVM1999
Elite colleges are a different world. The financial aid kids are much smarter than those coming from money, trust me.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:28 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Moved goalpost? GTFO. There are enough wealthy people many times over for such a thing.
There aren't enough families in the world with college aged kids that can swing $10 million tuition. frick off with moving the goal post from your absolutely stupid claim.
What's utterly stupid is you not understanding simple supply and demand. Harvard is now $95K/year (~$400K total) (supposedly). And the waiting list is a mile long (not including the hundreds of thousands annually worldwide who would die to get in). If you really think $95K ($400k) is clearing the market, you're a fricking dullard. (I guess we knew that already).
How many families in the world do you think are worth at least, say, $200 million? (There are thousands of billionaires.)
Posted on 4/5/24 at 12:37 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Source: crushing waiting list and unmet demand for finite amount of spots.
Source, trust me bro
Source: basic supply/demand
Source: Rick Singer college scandal where parents were paying $250K+ just to have their kid get in to schools that weren't even Harvard.
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Source: Wealthy people the world over routinely give millions to colleges in hopes of influencing admissions decisions for their children.
LINK
Posted on 4/5/24 at 5:40 am to Big Scrub TX
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Moved goalpost? GTFO. There are enough wealthy people many times over for such a thing.
You literally said they would have no trouble at $10 million tuition. That's a stupid claim that even you know is bullshite.
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What's utterly stupid is you not understanding simple supply and demand. Harvard is now $95K/year (~$400K total) (supposedly). And the waiting list is a mile long (not including the hundreds of thousands annually worldwide who would die to get in). If you really think $95K ($400k) is clearing the market, you're a fricking dullard. (I guess we knew that already).
This is you shifting the goalpost away from your $10 million claim.
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How many families in the world do you think are worth at least, say, $200 million? (There are thousands of billionaires.)
Not enough with college aged kids to fill Harvard at a cost of $10 million tuition. This is such a weird hill to die on. Just say the $10 million was hyberbole and move on.
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 5:54 am
Posted on 4/5/24 at 5:47 am to LNCHBOX
It is if the gov is paying for it. Forever debtors. Insane.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 5:50 am to Big Scrub TX
quote:LSU waitlists kids. Guess they should significantly raire tuition as well.
Source: crushing waiting list and unmet demand for finite amount of spots.
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Source: basic supply/demand
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Source: Rick Singer college scandal where parents were paying $250K+ just to have their kid get in to schools that weren't even Harvard.
Rich people paying for their dumb kids to cut the line over qualified applicants isn't making your case.
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Source: Wealthy people the world over routinely give millions to colleges in hopes of influencing admissions decisions for their children.
Too bad they also do that when they either don't have kids or have kids that have already gone through college.
Your whole argument boils down to claiming pretty much any school with a waitlist and donors is leaving 6 figures per student on the table.
How very generous of them. 
Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:49 am to Dr Rosenrosen
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Only a fraction of undergraduate students pay the full price at Harvard or Stanford or Duke or Vanderbilt
It isn't a small fraction.
I'm a parent of a student attending one of the first 3 schools in your list. A large % of students are full-pay kids who attended private high schools.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:54 am to lsuconnman
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The Ivy feeders like Choate, Exeter, etc. that cost 100k/yr from grade school just to get in the pipeline cost and cost more than the Ivy.
When I went through, I think tuition was 45k, with room and board it’s 75k now. Which is crazy to me.
If you look at the cumulative cost, from kindergarten through undergraduate, you’re looking at a million dollars.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:55 am to Lima Whiskey
A crash course on tuition discounting as recruitment strategy might be helpful here.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:04 am to LSUDVM1999
My kids talk about grades / IQ and that's fine and all... But I'm trying to instill in them that it doesn't matter if you have a 180 IQ if you dont do anything. Valdosta St is just as good a wellsley - if you hustle
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:06 am to LSUDVM1999
Democrats and liberals are the same idiots who support dumping trillions of dollars into the health care industry and then are shocked when medical costs skyrocket.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:26 am to LSUDVM1999
Just in time for all the student debt relief.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 7:43 am to LNCHBOX
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:01 am to Motownsix
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That’s one of the biggest fallacies regarding criticizing the value of college. The idea that some degrees are inherently more valuable is narrow minded. The conclusion is that art school has no value because according to the 2020 census the average artist makes $35k per year. The assumption is that everyone who went to art school becomes an artist. Two of the three founders of AirBNB graduated from art school and are worth $10 billion each. Was their experience a waste of time? Did their parents make an unwise investment?
General education requirements are an important factor for a universal education. Liberal arts were not designed to be progressive indoctrination centers but were supposed to be education centers allowing students to think critically and effectively for a proper, liberal (meaning free) society.
However, with the influx of government backed student loans, the lack of on the job training invested in by companies, and the constant jumping around by employees, we have turned universities (remember universal education) into jobs programs.
With that said, we have morphed liberal arts studies into bastardized versions of what it once was so that the students coming out of these programs are not free thinkers capable of critical and rigorous thinking free citizens but damn near brainwashed, Orwellian zombies.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:05 am to LSUDVM1999
There’s a 15% dip coming real soon in the numbers of college freshmen.
Less students equals get more per student to survive.
Less students equals get more per student to survive.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 8:22 am to lsuconnman
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You just made his case for him.
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You didn’t like the $10mil number. But the reason it’s unrealistic isn’t because they couldn’t find enough willing people. It’s unrealistic, because of the optics.
A one time $250k payment to get in is nothing like a minimum of $40 million for an undergrad for the entire school's student body.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 9:23 am to LSUDVM1999
My son is using my GI Bill to attend Virginia this fall. They are charging close to $80K/year, but the GI Bill is covering all of it.
Son number 2 is applying to Duke to start Fall 2026. Duke is more expensive, but they have a program where they’ll accept the state max GI Bill, which I think is around $70K in North Carolina.
Son number 2 is applying to Duke to start Fall 2026. Duke is more expensive, but they have a program where they’ll accept the state max GI Bill, which I think is around $70K in North Carolina.
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