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re: Allegedly, Madison Brooks had sex the day before incident that caused that caused injuries
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:53 pm to WhiteRussianDude
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:53 pm to WhiteRussianDude
quote:
As a general rule.. the upper class college chick doesn’t go trolling for 17 year old poor kids for some anal, regardless of race.
They do in pornos prevalently.
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:55 pm to TeddyPadillac
quote:
that's exactly how that original thread went, and anyone who tried to use some common sense and point out facts that refuted what you just said was deemed a piece of shite who was defending the scum bags.
FTR, this is leap-frogging over a lot of facts that were known pretty early on.
Didn't they admit to having sex with her and affirming her drunkenness the next day? And who offloads a drunk, disoriented, lost girl at 2AM in 33F?
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:55 pm to WhiteRussianDude
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Only one aspect of the skepticism regarding consent is race. There is also age AND class. As a general rule.. the upper class college chick doesn’t go trolling for 17 year old poor kids for some anal, regardless of race.
Dick was extra-curricular. Drugs and alcohol was the relationship draw.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 10:59 pm to Adam Banks
quote:What?
They are trying to play chicken with the parents to get them to drop charges.
We need a tigerdroppings class on how criminal charges work
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:13 pm to AlwysATgr
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FTR, this is leap-frogging over a lot of facts that were known pretty early on.
That original thread was full of inaccurate statements being passed as facts.
I was one that said I thought it was stupid that we can automatically say a woman is raped if she is the slightest bit drunk and has sex. I wasn’t saying the guys were innocent, just that saying a woman can’t consent if drunk so it’s automatically rape no matter what was a slippery slope. I was deemed a defender of the scumbags.
Now everyone in this thread is saying exactly what I said back then about drunk consent.
People also ignored the fact that she ran to their car from the bar to go after them, and are literally still doing so in this thread.
All the while people were just making up their own facts about what happened and ignoring the evidence.
This incident and the races involved had a lot of people do some assuming early on of what happened, which wasn’t at all what actually happened.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:42 pm to slackster
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I’m not suggesting race is the only reason, but being an attractive white girl and having sex with two black guys means it had to be rape for many on this board.
BS.
Her blood alcohol level means it had to be rape for many on this board and the law.
Why do we know the blood alcohol level? Because the pieces of shite didn’t bother to get her home and make sure she got home safely, and she got killed minutes after being in car with them.
If she wakes up the next morning multiple better scenarios for them after their crime pop up including the below -
* Doesn’t remember the sex the next morning, and the guys have zero reason to be interviewed by the police. It’s over.
* if she remembers and goes to police next day or so she can’t prove how drunk she was and this becomes a he/she said on consent affecting how &!whether it’s pursued by police and DA (and what charges) and what the jury has to decide if DA does pursue. It also increases the likelihood of her not wanting to be attacked by lawyers after a while and supporting a plea to something minor or to just stop pushing completely.
* She has some regrets about the sex, but it’s not something to the extent she considers getting police involved regardless of how drunk she probably was. A little embarrassed with the yelling at the driver over not having sex with her like the others, but they were asses anyway. She moves on.
* She wakes up, is ok with the sex, and hopes they realize she was drunk and acted out in car. She is actually thankful that they made sure she got home safely even though she acted out on drive there and wouldn’t mind running into them again.
After the rape they had one job - get the girl they knew was drunk back to her home or to a friend’s home safely as promised. I can’t think of a scenario where they get her home safely that is worse for them than what they are going through. They deserve it all.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:44 pm to dallastigers
You really think a lot about rape...
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:12 am to TeddyPadillac
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I wasn’t saying the guys were innocent, just that saying a woman can’t consent if drunk so it’s automatically rape no matter what was a slippery slope.
I followed the initial thread pretty closely and really have little recall of who posted what. There was a judge holden who offered some legal perspective and an Angel poster who apparently had some inside info that was conveyed with indiscretion.
Yes, there were errors circulating then, e.g., it was raining when she was struck. A British newspaper published that. It was near freezing but not raining.
Regardless of what narrative of events one constructs, they all have to intersect with a motorist on Burbank at 2AM.
People of sound mind don't just walk out in front of oncoming cars.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 12:13 am
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:08 am to dallastigers
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Why do we know the blood alcohol level? Because the pieces of shite didn’t bother to get her home and make sure she got home safely, and she got killed minutes after being in car with them
From what I understand, she asked to be let out of the car. What were they supposed to do?
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:09 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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From what I understand, she asked to be let out of the car. What were they supposed to do?
When presented the opportunity you should always add kidnapping to your list of felonies.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:16 am to redstick13
Were all parties drunk?
Posted on 3/13/24 at 5:28 am to TeddyPadillac
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They do in pornos prevalently.
Once all the evidence is laid out, do you think anyone is willing to do a Lifetime movie based on the facts of the case or twist the facts, names, and nature of the case to get away from a direct comparison.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:28 am to Chad504boy
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There is video of her literally running to their car from the bar.
There's also evidence of her being run over by a car in the middle of a road in middle of night shortly after being dropped off out of the rapers' vehicle.
Unless the prosecution can prove the men dropped her off in the middle of the road they won't be able to convict the men of her death. They will all testify they let her out at the entrance to the subdivision and not on Burbank where she was struck by the vehicle. They may have a better chance of a sexual assault case. This new development with the testimony of sex the da before may be the catalyst for a plea deal to spare the family having to hear all the lurid details.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:29 am to TeddyPadillac
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that's exactly how that original thread went, and anyone who tried to use some common sense and point out facts that refuted what you just said was deemed a piece of shite who was defending the scum bags.
I am not saying the accused are guilty or innocent, and I am not making a judgement based on their race.
HOWEVER I do think a lot of people in the original thread believed the scenario of mine that you quoted because they could never believe a white suburb sorority girl would ever choose to be in the company of such people of her own accord no matter how intoxicated.
Yet.... well.... I mean we saw the footage of her literally across the parking lot to catch up with them....
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 7:30 am
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:34 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
From what I understand, she asked to be let out of the car. What were they supposed to do?
Well, if they hadn't just taken advantage of her as they did they could've:
a) Called 911
b) Taken her to the police precinct in proximity
c) Called an Uber
d) Taken her somewhere safe, warm, and lighted
Why we're none of these viable options?
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:35 am to redstick13
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When presented the opportunity you should always add kidnapping to your list of felonies.
In the OG thread I was trying to point this out. Also, if they had engaged in kidnapping, they likely could have been charged for 1st degree murder via felony murder, as the death would have been much more closely associated with a felony.
But, as was said earlier, it's shocking the amount of people who believe that she was forced into the card, forced to have sex, and then thrown out in the middle of the road where she was run over. When you realize that a lot of the people who can't avoid emotions with this situation are picturing it in that way, it makes the irrationality make more sense.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:36 am to AlwysATgr
quote:
Well, if they hadn't just taken advantage of her as they did they could've:
a) Called 911
b) Taken her to the police precinct in proximity
c) Called an Uber
d) Taken her somewhere safe, warm, and lighted
Why we're none of these viable options?
The way it has been reported, she wanted to be let out and was basically demanding that. As was posted on this page, keeping her in the car longer could have become a separate serious felony (kidnapping).
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:42 am to AlwysATgr
quote:
Didn't they admit to having sex with her and affirming her drunkenness the next day? And who offloads a drunk, disoriented, lost girl at 2AM in 33F?
As opposed to actually kidnapping her? She asked to be let out. If they don't let her out, that is kidnapping or false imprisonment.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:42 am to SlowFlowPro
The fact she was in the middle of the road and got struck by a car would indicate how seriously drunk she was.. they could have chosen a more responsible place to abandon her.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 7:45 am to t00f
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they could have chosen a more responsible place to abandon her.
Where could they have let her out that wasn't within 5 minutes walking distance from a roadway?
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