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re: Any Trey Holly updates?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:04 pm to GeauxTime9
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:04 pm to GeauxTime9
Apparently they just made 3 more arrests in connection to the shooting.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:12 pm to YMCA
So we figured out who the other 3 were shooting at?
None of these 3 were charged with attempted murder, I would assume bc they weren’t shooting at the two victims?
None of these 3 were charged with attempted murder, I would assume bc they weren’t shooting at the two victims?
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Eric Jones, 18, of Farmerville was arrested on one count of illegal use of weapons on a public roadway.
A 17-year-old Marion resident was arrested on one count of illegal use of weapons on a public roadway.
Another 17-year-old Marion resident was arrested on one count of illegal use of weapons on a public roadway, one count of illegal use of a handgun by a juvenile, and one count of aggravated assault with a firearm.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/5/24 at 1:26 pm to JimTiger72
Those arrests complicate matters a bit.
More shooters, more chaos, more reasonable doubts...
More shooters, more chaos, more reasonable doubts...
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:13 pm to BDoubleEZ
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We used to live there and still have friends and family there and we've heard the same thing. Actually what we heard was that it was only a matter time before something like this happened with TH. Doesn't mean he did it but the popular opinion around Farmerville is that nobody would be surprised if he did.
I won't pretend to know whether or not he's innocent, nor will I pretend to know what kind of trouble he gets into when he's at home. But I know with 100% certainty that he never got in trouble at school, always kept his grades up, and was a very respectful kid. The popular opinion around Farmerville is that he's innocent because nobody I know could ever see him being involved in an attempted murder.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:15 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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You think the case was presented to a grand jury before any chargers were decided?
Grand juries are used often when a high profile individual is a suspect and the DA/Sheriff doesn't want to catch alot of heat.
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 3/5/24 at 2:37 pm to PureBlood
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Grand juries are used often when a high profile individual is a suspect and the DA/Sheriff doesn't want to catch alot of heat
He has already been charged and arrested. This case is likely to go in front of a grand jury, if the DA doesn't decide to drop it. The grand jury isn't who decided to charge and arrest him already though. Is this concept really hard for people to understand?
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 3/5/24 at 3:48 pm to adavis
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I won't pretend to know whether or not he's innocent, nor will I pretend to know what kind of trouble he gets into when he's at home. But I know with 100% certainty that he never got in trouble at school, always kept his grades up, and was a very respectful kid. The popular opinion around Farmerville is that he's innocent because nobody I know could ever see him being involved in an attempted murder.
THIS. I am from there. I don't know him personally but he was pretty well revered by the entire town. I know people who have known him his whole life and have never had anything but positive things to say about him and his character. Now this story comes out and suddenly he is a known gang banger in the area. All I can say is family that is still there in the area strongly believe he is innocent and think it is an attempt to get money.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:02 pm to lsursb
quote:Not trying to be a dick, and I certainly don't have the necessary information to determine whether or not Holly is innocent or guilty, but get money from who, exactly? It's not like Trey Holly and his family have a massive amount of wealth. What are they going to do? Sue six poor 18 year olds in civil court and hope Holly makes it to the NFL to then garnish his wages from there?
All I can say is family that is still there in the area strongly believe he is innocent and think it is an attempt to get money.
I doubt any of the Defendants have any descernable assets they would lose in some sort of judgment.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:03 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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He has already been charged and arrested. This case is likely to go in front of a grand jury, if the DA doesn't decide to drop it. The grand jury isn't who decided to charge and arrest him already though. Is this concept really hard for people to understand?
Someone doesnt understand the difference between Grand Jury and a trial jury.
GOogle is your friend, friend.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:09 pm to PP7 for heisman
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but get money from who, exactly? It's not like Trey Holly and his family have a massive amount of wealth.
Not saying I believe it...but the story I heard is some of his family is involved and the "victim family" has history of scamming and they thought "LSU interests" would try to throw a little hush money if they added Trey's name.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 4:21 pm to lsursb
quote:I see.
Not saying I believe it...but the story I heard is some of his family is involved and the "victim family" has history of scamming and they thought "LSU interests" would try to throw a little hush money if they added Trey's name.
I just don't see LSU/boosters being extorted over a guy who will likely never be more than an RB2. Gotta pick and choose your battles like that. Like the victims of Guice, for example, were hushed until after he finished his career at LSU
The Peter Parish's and Trey Holly's of the world probably don't get that same treatment.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 6:04 pm to PureBlood
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Someone doesnt understand the difference between Grand Jury and a trial jury.
GOogle is your friend, friend
I perfectly understand the difference. So, in your understanding, Holly has already been indicted by a grand jury?
Posted on 3/5/24 at 9:32 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Okay, these are important concepts for the public to understand, so here goes:
In the State of Louisiana, there are only two ways for a person to be charged with a crime:
1) a District Attorney, authorized Assistant District Attorney, or other prosecuting agency (e.g., city prosecutor, etc.) files a Bill of Information charging you with a crime; or
2) a Grand Jury returns an indictment.
I am not involved in Union Parish at all, but from my spectator position I have not seen any indication either of those have taken place. Unless one of those has taken place, Holly has not been charged with a crime.
The police do not charge people with crimes. The police arrest people they suspect of committing crimes. An arrest can be executed pursuant to a warrant for arrest, which is issued when a law enforcement officer presents evidence to a magistrate (usually a judge) who determines that there is probable cause to make the arrest and signs the warrant. That determination is not a finding of guilt; probable cause is only a determination that is worthwhile to take the person into custody and hold them on a bond obligation. Alternatively, the arrest can be made under certain circumstances without a warrant, and then the arrested individual is brought before a magistrate (again, usually a judge) who makes a determination of whether there is probable cause.
Everything I have seen suggests that Holly was arrested, likely pursuant to a warrant. Either way, it seems that a determination was made that there was probable cause for the arrest. However, arrests are made and probable cause found in many cases where the person is never charged with any crime. That could still potentially be the case here.
In the State of Louisiana, there are only two ways for a person to be charged with a crime:
1) a District Attorney, authorized Assistant District Attorney, or other prosecuting agency (e.g., city prosecutor, etc.) files a Bill of Information charging you with a crime; or
2) a Grand Jury returns an indictment.
I am not involved in Union Parish at all, but from my spectator position I have not seen any indication either of those have taken place. Unless one of those has taken place, Holly has not been charged with a crime.
The police do not charge people with crimes. The police arrest people they suspect of committing crimes. An arrest can be executed pursuant to a warrant for arrest, which is issued when a law enforcement officer presents evidence to a magistrate (usually a judge) who determines that there is probable cause to make the arrest and signs the warrant. That determination is not a finding of guilt; probable cause is only a determination that is worthwhile to take the person into custody and hold them on a bond obligation. Alternatively, the arrest can be made under certain circumstances without a warrant, and then the arrested individual is brought before a magistrate (again, usually a judge) who makes a determination of whether there is probable cause.
Everything I have seen suggests that Holly was arrested, likely pursuant to a warrant. Either way, it seems that a determination was made that there was probable cause for the arrest. However, arrests are made and probable cause found in many cases where the person is never charged with any crime. That could still potentially be the case here.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 5:00 am to King Joey
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Okay, these are important concepts for the public to understand, so here goes:
In the State of Louisiana, there are only two ways for a person to be charged with a crime:
1) a District Attorney, authorized Assistant District Attorney, or other prosecuting agency (e.g., city prosecutor, etc.) files a Bill of Information charging you with a crime; or
2) a Grand Jury returns an indictment.
Bingo. This is a common practince in Louisiana when the suspect is well known and/or there is a connection between the DA and the family. It's an added step of transparency for the case. In my experience, Ive also seen where they do this because there is an element of the case that hasn;t been nailed down OR they may or may not be able to prove.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 5:04 am to adavis
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I won't pretend to know whether or not he's innocent
I won't either. There are obviously two different opinions around town. Either way, I hope he had nothing to do with this.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 5:46 am to PureBlood
If you have never been on the Grand Jury, you could only assume. You serve for 6 months and here every potential feliny case during that time, not just high profile cases. It is intense.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 5:47 am
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:14 am to King Joey
quote:
Okay, these are important concepts for the public to understand, so here goes:
In the State of Louisiana, there are only two ways for a person to be charged with a crime:
1) a District Attorney, authorized Assistant District Attorney, or other prosecuting agency (e.g., city prosecutor, etc.) files a Bill of Information charging you with a crime; or
2) a Grand Jury returns an indictment
This is semantics. If you wanted to go off of absolute text book definition, then sure. He was arrested on attempted second degree murder. That part is an absolute fact. Most people would say that attempted second degree murder is his charge. That comes from the police, at this point.
The DA can not accept the charges, can change the charges, can send it to the grand jury (most likely case here).
This entire rabbit hole started by people saying a grand jury charged him. That's simply not the case.
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:03 am to Hold That Tiger 10
If the DA is on the fence about charging the accused, has a conflict of interest, the case involves a high profile figure or a politically charged case the DA can call for a grand jury and let the citizens decide
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