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re: Any Trey Holly updates?

Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:31 am to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:31 am to
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You serve for 6 months

That is usually the case but special grand juries can be empanelled for up to 18 months in Louisiana.

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here every potential feliny case during that time


Holy grammar Batman.

As I understand it, they may or may not hear any felony cases but probably won't be convened for all of them or even most of them. But if it is a capital case or a potential life-in-prison charge it has to go before the grand jury before it can proceed to a charge and trial.

La. Code Crim. Proc. art. 437
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The grand jury shall inquire into all capital offenses and offenses punishable by life imprisonment triable within the parish. It may inquire into other offenses triable by the district court of the parish, and shall inquire into such offenses when requested to do so by the district attorney or ordered to do so by the court.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
3926 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:49 am to
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La. Code Crim. Proc. art. 437



But Hold That Tiger 10 says other wise...

tRant never ceases to amaze me.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30347 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:54 am to
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La. Code Crim. Proc. art. 437




But Hold That Tiger 10 says other wise...

tRant never ceases to amaze me.



I can't recall what y'all were going back and forth about but I think the sentencing guidelines for attempted second-degree murder in Louisiana is not up to life imprisonment so would not have to go before a grand jury.

Regardless of that, a grand jury indictment is not required for an arrest even for capital cases.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
3926 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:59 am to
DA's have prosecutorial discretion on how to proceed with charging folks. My argument was that this one was likely presented to grand jury due to the individual involved. It's moot at this point, but some folks wanted to argue over Grand Jury definition in Louisiana without even googling much less accepting that some posters on here may or may not be far more experienced in the judicial processes in La.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30347 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 9:22 am to
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DA's have prosecutorial discretion on how to proceed with charging folks.
Pretty much 100% discretion, that is why you should cast your vote wisely for DA. Of course, political pressures and legal processes governing malfeasance help to put up moderate guardrails.

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My argument was that this one was likely presented to grand jury due to the individual involved.


That would give him some political cover but I'm not sure how much. If there is a clear path to dropping the case, he probably will I suspect.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21075 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:22 am to
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I can't recall what y'all were going back and forth about


This moron believes that Holly has already been indicted by a grand jury. He believes the grand jury is who decided that Holly should be arrested. No matter how many ways I try to explain it, he repeats the same thing after anybody else explains what a grand jury does, like it makes him correct. It doesn't even matter. At this point, I'm just as big of a moron, because I continued to argue with somebody who probably can't yet recite their ABC's fully.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 11:23 am
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21075 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:25 am to
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My argument was that this one was likely presented to grand jury due to the individual involved


That would be public record then. Given the case, don't you believe this would be common knowledge? When the date is set for a grand jury trial, we will be well aware of it.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 11:26 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260689 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:28 am to
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When the date is set for a grand jury trial,


GJs are done in secret.

Everyone should serve on them once. You'll lose faith in humanity very quickly. Everyone seems to be a crook.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21075 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:40 am to
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GJs are done in secret.


If someone is indicted by a grand jury, it is on public record.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260689 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:47 am to
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That is usually the case but special grand juries can be empanelled for up to 18 months in Louisiana.


Damn. I thought a month was bad.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47388 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:48 am to
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My argument was that this one was likely presented to grand jury due to the individual involved.




Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30347 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:33 pm to
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That is usually the case but special grand juries can be empanelled for up to 18 months in Louisiana.



Damn. I thought a month was bad.



It's rarely continuous. They call them in when they have to or want to have grand jury proceedings. I had a friend on the normal 6-month duty who had to show up 3 times for about 3 days each time in that period.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30347 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:35 pm to
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At this point, I'm just as big of a moron, because I continued to argue with somebody who probably can't yet recite their ABC's fully.



I do that quite often here, often enough that I sometimes wonder if I'm the one who cant recite my ABCs
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30347 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:40 pm to
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GJs are done in secret.



The proceeding and specifically the grand jury deliberations are secret. The results, whether an indictment or a no true bill, are public records.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:43 pm to
Not reading through all of this. Will he ever play LSU football again?
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12247 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:07 pm to
This is not to be critical or hyper-technical, but it is more accurate to say G. Jury proceedings are SUPPOSED to be secret. Too often, they are not.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30347 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:24 pm to
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This is not to be critical or hyper-technical, but it is more accurate to say G. Jury proceedings are SUPPOSED to be secret. Too often, they are not.



That is true. I believe leaking information is technically a crime, the exception may be people called to the stand. But I am not anywhere near certain of that.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12247 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 2:36 pm to
I am no expert, but everybody in the GJ proceeding is supposed to keep it secret, at least until the indictment is handed down. After indictment, witnesses can discuss their testimony with the DA or counsel for defendants. Sometimes participants "forget" about the secrecy part...
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93724 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:08 pm to
Came here to get an update on Holly and all I got was an amateur debate on how law works in back woods Louisiana
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30347 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 3:10 pm to
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Came here to get an update on Holly and all I got was an amateur debate on how law works in back woods Louisiana



Hey now, I think it was at least a rank amateur debate...or maybe just rank.
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