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Another upcoming execution that gives me great pause - foreman now says they got it wrong

Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:13 am
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16314 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:13 am
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Family members gather in February seeking to stop this month’s scheduled exeuction of Melissa Lucio.

In 2008, I served on the jury that sent Melissa Lucio to death row for the alleged murder of her 2-year-old daughter. Even at the time of trial, when it seemed to me that Lucio’s defense lawyers were hardly making a case for her life, I did not want to sentence her to death. I felt pressured by my fellow jurors to vote for a death sentence, but I wish I had never done so.

At the trial, prosecutors argued Lucio had been physically abusive toward her daughter, Mariah — the youngest of her 12 children. They noted the bruises and other injuries found on her body when Mariah was brought to the hospital and later declared dead. The majority of their prosecution, however, rested on Lucio’s confession, the result of five hours of interrogation.

But there were so many other details that went unmentioned. It wasn’t until after the trial was over that troubling information was brought to light.

Now, less than a month away from her planned execution, I feel deep regret. Since learning about all the things we jurors were never told when we held Lucio’s life in our hands, I see her as a woman who had a hard life and many struggles, who could have been anyone in my community.

I did not know that her long history of physical and sexual abuse made her vulnerable to falsely confess when subjected to aggressive interrogation tactics on the night of her daughter’s death. No one took us through the interrogation to show us how many times she asserted her innocence (over 100) or how she repeated the same words the interrogators fed to her. No evidence was presented of that and it would have mattered to me.

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I hope that the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles recommends clemency and Gov. Greg Abbott grants it to prevent the irreversible tragedy of Lucio’s execution from taking place.



Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
6793 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:18 am to
Meh, cry me a river
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34057 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:19 am to
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Eurocat

Another upcoming execution that gives me great pause - foreman now says they got it wrong


A white liberal doesn't like the death penalty? Shocker!
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18531 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:21 am to
Could one of the other 12 kids have done it?

Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17086 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:21 am to
Too much time and media access have allowed many people to develop sympathy for a child murderer.

And obviously they are going to push that she lived such a tough life etc etc etc.

So has everyone else, just in their own way. No excuses for killing your 2 year old, sorry.

I believe in forgiveness and I hope God provides that.

Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
48240 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:21 am to
The death penalty issue, to me, is so fuzzy. I don’t believe that we should play God and choose when someone dies. On the other hand, if that was my daughter, I’d want the mom dead. Very tough issue for me.
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5489 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:22 am to
Either she did it or it happened under her supervision. She got 16 years of hot meals and showers that she didn't deserve.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11293 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:23 am to
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I see her as a woman who had a hard life and many struggles, who could have been anyone in my community.


Liberal pussies love to act like some people are too stupid to function in society, so they should get a free pass.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:24 am to
quote:

did not know that her long history of physical and sexual abuse made her vulnerable to falsely confess when subjected to aggressive interrogation tactics on the night of her daughter’s death. No one took us through the interrogation to show us how many times she asserted her innocence (over 100) or how she repeated the same words the interrogators fed to her. No evidence was presented of that and it would have mattered to me.


Her defense team didn’t think this was relevant?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138107 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:25 am to
This case has been appealed many times.

He can regret the process, but I'm not sure he should regret the result.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37121 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:26 am to
Seems like there are near endless appeals and review years before an execution is actually carried out.
Did that happen here?
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:27 am to
Are they gonna let her go if they don't execute her? If not, why does it matter? Just kill her and do her a favor
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24841 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:31 am to
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Seems like there are near endless appeals and review years before an execution is actually carried out.
Did that happen here?


In colonial days, a death sentence was carried out 10 days after conviction. People didn't have time for BS.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15513 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:33 am to
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I felt pressured by my fellow jurors to vote for a death sentence, but I wish I had never done so.


welcome to life on a jury.

Human nature make jurys very unreliable judges of innocent and guilt. Add in deceptive defendants, witnesses and attorneys as you have all the ingredients for a disaster.

The death penalty is archaic and needs to be removed from judicial system. Along with abortion.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
54535 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:35 am to
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Now, less than a month away from her planned execution, I feel deep regret. Since learning about all the things we jurors were never told when we held Lucio’s life in our hands, I see her as a woman who had a hard life and many struggles, who could have been anyone in my community.


Doesn't give you the right to kill your kid, even if you have 12 of them.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34823 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:38 am to
I’m not a huge fan of the death penalty but
quote:

No one took us through the interrogation to show us how many times she asserted her innocence (over 100)


Don’t most murderers protest their innocence initially?
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19754 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:50 am to
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The majority of their prosecution, however, rested on Lucio’s confession, the result of five hours of interrogation.

But there were so many other details that went unmentioned. It wasn’t until after the trial was over that troubling information was brought to light.


If it's a murder/serious felony trial, they should make the time to sit through the entire interrogation video. Letting either side (Prosecution or Defense) edit it is just asking for trouble. If they think five hours is too much trouble before sentencing someone to death I don't know what to tell them.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58234 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:51 am to
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The death penalty issue, to me, is so fuzzy. I don’t believe that we should play God and choose when someone dies.

Y’all say this and then want to force people to get vaccines
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
57646 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 9:57 am to
quote:

The death penalty issue, to me, is so fuzzy. I don’t believe that we should play God and choose when someone dies. On the other hand, if that was my daughter, I’d want the mom dead. Very tough issue for me.
I feel the same way. God should take their lives, but they shouldn’t get 3 hots and a cot, cable tv, and a/c either.

People rant ‘we have to treat them humanely’ but that convict wasn’t humane when he or she took that life.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35323 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:01 am to
Blood lust, I love it!!!!
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