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re: Today Johnson Begins Working Under Massive Pressure From Schumer, McConnell, Jeffries, WH

Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:50 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:50 am to
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pubs should just follow along and give the dems what they want b

The GOP should get as much as they can from their incredibly weak bargaining position today and try to use the DEMs hanging themselves to strengthen their position in November.

What is your plan? Marginalizing the GOP, and giving the DEMs talking points for November, and giving the DEMs what they want? How is that a better plan?
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:56 am to
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Yes, the person providing rational analysis and not promoting "washing in the blood" it the one out of touch





What you and your ilk does not understand is that, yes We The People are pissed off and are willing to be washed in blood. In short, you are the one that is out of touch but think the majority of the population are the ones Koo Koo for Coa Coa Puffs. Its sad and hilarious at the same time
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:59 am to
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The GOP should get as much as they can from their incredibly weak bargaining position today


See that is a opinion. A terrible and laughable opinion. The GOP controls the power of the purse. That is a incredibly strong bargaining position. If they screw this up then their position in November will be even worse.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:01 am to
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yes We The People are pissed off

I fully understand a small population is pissed off.

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you are the one that is out of touch but think the majority of the population

You think Patriots are a majority of the population?
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:02 am to
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You think Patriots are a majority of the population?



Yes
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:02 am to
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I fully understand a small population is pissed off.


At least 74 million.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:03 am to
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Yes

Then why don't they have more seats in Congress?

They're about 10%...of the GOP
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:04 am to
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At least 74 million.

Then why can't they win seats in Congress? Or one Senate seat?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11280 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:04 am to
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Giving the DEMs all 3 branches in November is "worth it" when all you get back is virtue signaling?





Bro, this is the exact reason our Federal government is out of control. If curbing spending and enforcing the law on the border losses you 3 branches of government so be it. They need to stop bending over to appease these phantom voters the media makes up that are always used as a threat.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:05 am to
Pedro with the spice.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:05 am to
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If curbing spending and enforcing the law on the border losses you 3 branches of government so be it.

And there is the martyrdom I referenced earlier

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They need to stop bending over to appease these phantom voters

If they weren't real, the GOP would control all 3 branches.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12348 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:16 am to
Remember the “Border Deal” guaranteed 2 million illegals per year every year forever.


It would be better to have no deal than that deal.

Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:19 am to
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The GOP should get as much as they can from their incredibly weak bargaining position today and try to use the DEMs hanging themselves to strengthen their position in November.
What is your plan? Marginalizing the GOP, and giving the DEMs talking points for November, and giving the DEMs what they want? How is that a better plan?



its a rather good position if theyre willing to hold out. and its much better than allowing dems an insanely strong position in november while giving them everything they want like your plan would do. theyd get to claim muh bipartisanship, aid to ukraine/israel AND solving the border crisis. moderates would

dems actually have a weak position here.
we have a growing sentiment that the border needs addressed, moderates are more likely on pubs side here. not funding ukraine would be rather unpopular for dem base.

this is actually a pretty big thing that could sway moderates. pubs have a good shot, or they could give it all away for pennies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:22 am to
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dems actually have a weak position here.
we have a growing sentiment that the border needs addressed,

DEMs have already started flipping that narrative by claiming the GOP is obstructing the border deal that was negotiated.

If they continue to do this well, the GOP is blamed for the border. That "growing sentiment" flips and hurts the GOP.

I don't personally blame the GOP for the border issues, but I'm not your typical voter.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39682 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:24 am to
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Again, the DEMs have a safe majority in the Senate and the Presidency


The democrats' majorities here are anything but safe. Go sell your gaslight bullshite to someone else. Republicans don't have to sell out to dems on immigration to keep the house. This is asinine on its face.

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Yes, the person providing rational analysis and not promoting "washing in the blood" it the one out of touch


are you paying attention? The biggest, most powerful republican voting bloc is willing to take the knocks and play the long game to purge out the establishment, and has been since the Tea party. You want to run back into the arms of people like Mitch McConnell for what exactly? The occasional R majority where all we get is surrender?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:30 am to
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The democrats' majorities here are anything but safe.

Who is a threat to splinter and flip on the DEMs this session?

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The biggest, most powerful republican voting bloc is willing to take the knocks

Traditional GOP ("RINOs") are not willing to do this.

Patriots are a small voting bloc of possibly only 5 Reps today. They also have 0 Senate seats.

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You want to run back into the arms of people like Mitch McConnell for what exactly?

Mitch McConnell is a bad person to cite, considering all the wins he's provided.

Tax cuts, regulatory reform, the Supreme Court...all MM.

Use Romney instead.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39682 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:36 am to
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I don't personally blame the GOP for the border issues, but I'm not your typical voter.


who TF blames the GOP for the border besides the psychopaths on MSNBC!?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
425357 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:37 am to
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who TF blames the GOP for the border besides the psychopaths on MSNBC!?

The DEMs are currently flipping the narrative that the GOP killing the border deal means they get the blame for the border from here on out.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39682 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:39 am to
You are just vomiting your opinions onto the board as if they were widely acknowledged facts from the civilized world that have not yet dripped their way into our country hovels.

Go sell this sanctimonious garbage to people who might actually buy it.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 11:40 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39682 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:40 am to
and only a fricking loser would buy that argument. republican voters arent buying it, no matter how much scat you spread on this board.
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