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re: Medieval farmers ate 7000-9000 calories a dsy

Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by OweO
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:21 pm to
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said they ate about 5k calories a day


This is common with NFL players
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:22 pm to
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But I think the point still it’s did jf they’re eating 4k-5k calories
now that’s more believable and still a shite ton of calories per day. The average human today consumes about 2,500 calories per day for reference
Posted by hob
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:26 pm to
In the book Undaunted Courage Stephen Ambose says the men of the Corp of Discovery ate 10k calories per day while rowing up the Missouri River. They had full time hunters just to harvest wild game.

Edit: I just looked it up he said 10 pounds of meat.
Venison is about 150 calories per 3 oz. About 800 calories per pound. So, that's about 8,000 calories per day.

This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 10:39 am
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:28 pm to
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Again, maybe his amount is too high. He wasn’t writing a paper for review. But I think the point still it’s did jf they’re eating 4k-5k calories
Sure, that's much more believable. I found a paper earlier that estimated the average calorie intake of a healthy young slave doing fieldwork in the south all day to be 4k, and mentioned it in the thread.

Male Marines burn around 3900 a day in boot camp for further reference.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 9:35 pm
Posted by bakersman
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:30 pm to
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What was the typical daily calorie burn of a medieval farmer?


A hell of a lot more than a farmer today sitting in an air conditioned cab that can plow 30 rows in one pass
Posted by WWII Collector
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:37 pm to
They had Golden Corrals too?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:38 pm to
Irish laborers used to be ‘paid’ in Guinness

Some workers would drink 16 per day
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:42 pm to
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What was the typical daily calorie burn of a medieval farmer?


I imagine it varied a lot by season. In winter you wouldn't be doing much except fixing things and feeding the livestock.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:46 pm to
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Irish laborers used to be ‘paid’ in Guinness

Some workers would drink 16 per day
And even that only gets you to a little over a third of the way there.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:07 pm to
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Hard work manually plowing the fields




Was this before the invention of the ox?
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:21 pm to
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I would need to see the research to believe that. You have to try to eat that many calories a day. Even in caloric dense food


Viking farmers and inuits often ate even more.

You want to look up a really scary number, fiber consumption.

Northern farmers ate 150-200 grams of fiber per day.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:22 pm to
They also were about 10,000% more physically active than we are today.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:23 pm to
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The average human today consumes about 2,500 calories per day for reference


Yeah if you count starving africans and indians.

The average american eats 3-4k in refined garbage per day.
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:26 pm to
And yet they were 9000% skinnier once again proving Adkins is correct
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:37 pm to
5k calories isn't all that much.

Hell I think it was 4th of july 2019 I did something like 20k calories in a day.

Tequila and cupcakes.
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:40 pm to
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And yet they were 9000% skinnier once again proving Adkins is correct

Add in that nothing they ate was processed, full of preservatives, or full of chemicals you can’t pronounce.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 10:53 pm to
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They also were about 10,000% more physically active than we are today.
This is true for most of the population but there are subsets of people today that we can use for rough comparison. I don't believe that the average single medieval farmer, even when considering the various difficult tasks they performed, exceeded the calories, every day, of those burned by two 18 year old males in Marine boot camp or two 25 year old male slaves working a cane field in Barbados. Not saying it's impossible, but I would be interested in anyone's attempt at a farmer's hypothetical daily schedule that realistically demonstrates those kind of numbers (not chopping wood at full intensity for 12 hours straight, every single day, as was offered earlier).

The physical toll and misery involved in reaching those numbers on a mass scale is civilization collapsing, or, at the very least, revolution inducing. A task that shouldn't have been too difficult for what was, apparently, the swolest, most physically active group of folks in history.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 10:57 pm
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:22 pm to
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What was the typical daily calorie burn of a medieval farmer?

I'd guess about 7000-9000
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:29 pm to
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It would literally take too much time to consume that much food

Eh, a butter sandwich gets you about 350 calories. Two slices of bread and two pats of butter. Add a slice of cheese and you're at 500. A slice of ham gets you to 700.

I could easily eat 10 of those in a day in a total of less than an hour.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:53 pm to
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Eh, a butter sandwich gets you about 350 calories. Two slices of bread and two pats of butter. Add a slice of cheese and you're at 500. A slice of ham gets you to 700.

I could easily eat 10 of those in a day in a total of less than an hour.
I realize your response was directed at someone addressing the consumption side of the argument, but that isn't what makes it implausible. It's easy to concoct methods for consuming that many calories. The problem is burning them, which, ostensibly, they did, because it's difficult to perform the kind of routine necessary to burn 9k calories a day when you're too fat to get out of bed.

So the questions become, how the hell were they averaging so many calories, why did they devote so much labor to pursue calories that were only needed to produce those calories, and just how incredibly productive were these medieval farms?
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