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re: SCOTUS votes 5-4 against Texas, Biden admin can remove border razor wire

Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51135 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

This is why the impeachment of Mayorkas matters.


There is no chance Mayorkas will be removed. Impeaching him is just a waste of time.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27461 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:04 pm to
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There is no chance Mayorkas will be removed. Impeaching him is just a waste of time.

I usually agree on political theater. But this will be the only chance that the GOP has to force the media to cover the border issue.

Congress has to fix the issue. Texas is on the losing side of this legal issue under current US law—which is flawed and poorly constructed for modern problems. And it won’t be SCOTUS’ fault. It’s Congress’ fault.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 5:05 pm
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
18238 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:05 pm to
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Abbot should refuse.

Period.

It's time to get this the frick over with.






100% correct he should stand this ground and tell them to fawk the fawk off
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18311 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

She rules on emotions.

The driving force behind politics this century, Left and Right.

It didn't used to be this way. Especially on the Right.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27461 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:05 pm to
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Texas has just as much of a right to defend its borders as any other state.

But it just doesn’t. Current US law prohibits Texas from countermanding or deviating from the federal governments enforcement of immigration law at the Mexican border.
Posted by BlueFalcon
Aberdeen Scotland
Member since Dec 2011
2365 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Abbott needs to cease and desist his illegal conduct, or go to jail. It's his call.


Too bad no one on the Left seems to have the balls to do anything besides cry
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25446 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:18 pm to
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Texas should tell them to gtfo nothing will happen



What are they going to do? Arrest Abbott?

Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6848 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:24 pm to
Also, they never said Texas couldn't put them up, again, and again, and again...
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27461 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

they never said Texas couldn't put them up, again, and again, and again...

That’s actually exactly what they said
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10729 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:28 pm to
Allows potus to further expand foreign invasion into the country which is obviously against the oath of office. The same oath that all politicians, armed forces take
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10729 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:29 pm to
Texas also has a constitution to uphold its citizens.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12372 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:33 pm to
Roberts has been to Epstein Island.

He will vote as he is told to vote.

Probably video of him reaming a child.

This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
675 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:33 pm to
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But it just doesn’t. Current US law prohibits Texas from countermanding or deviating from the federal governments enforcement of immigration law at the Mexican border.


You are correct. But, seriously, how insane is it that some people consider it a “win” for the courts to consent to the federal government’s dereliction of duty. FedGov literally went to court so they can allow an invasion
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11869 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:36 pm to
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Congress has to fix the issue.

They seem pretty helpless too. There are laws on the books that the executive is openly defying. Not sure a way around that other than impeachment and removal which obviously isn’t happening.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27461 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:37 pm to
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But, seriously, how insane is it that some people consider it a “win” for the courts to consent to the federal government’s dereliction of duty.

Very insane. I don’t envy the Court at all.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27461 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:38 pm to
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There are laws on the books that the executive is openly defying.

Very vague, milquetoast laws that use the word “may” when “shall” is more appropriate.

The executive is the immediate problem, sure. But Congress is the root of the problem.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99825 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:38 pm to
The Constitution is a compact (contract) among the States to create the national government.

It is a compact (contract) between the national government and the States.

The national government is is material breach of that contract.

The States (that word is capitalized for a reason) have every right to declare it null and void.

frick the SCOTUS. By its inaction (which is about as nice a word you can use for their COMPLICITY), at a minimum the fedgov has ceded its authority.
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
Member since Jan 2017
10786 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:39 pm to
So how does Abbott combat this insanity?

Remove the razor wire and replace it with something more lethal?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27461 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:40 pm to
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By its inaction (which is about as nice a word you can use for their COMPLICITY), at a minimum the fedgov has ceded its authority.

You’re blaming the judiciary for applying the law as it stands instead of blaming the two branches that have the power to change immigration policy.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99825 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:41 pm to
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You’re blaming the judiciary for applying the law as it stands instead of blaming the two branches that have the power to change immigration policy.


No.

I am blaming the SCOTUS for fricking ignoring the Constitution.
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