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re: 2024 Formula 1 season Thread
Posted on 3/9/24 at 3:04 pm to BuckyCheese
Posted on 3/9/24 at 3:04 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:
YOU SHALL NOT PASS
I appreciate that we love seeing Haas actually manage a race well for good results.
And I appreciate that we love seeing teamwork pay off.
But F1 fans are so jaded for celebrating a driver whose shitty driving incurred two (ineffective) penalties and did Albon tremendous damage (costing Alex a point), and harmed the races of everyone else behind him.
And worst of all, we're celebrating a slow car instead of being super annoyed at how hard it is to pass in F1. Hard-to-pass is good, but too-hard-to-pass doesn't improve the show, it makes it much worse.
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Posted on 3/9/24 at 3:11 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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And worst of all, we're celebrating a slow car
Go watch the race again.
KMag pulled away from the train behind him after Hulk pitted.
The Haas cars were faster than the other four teams behind them. KMag simply went slower in areas no one could pass then pulled out on the fast sections. Just like many other teams have done to give a teammate a pit window.
*And those penalties were bullshite. Especially the second one. At worst they should have made him give the spot back, not ten seconds.
Meanwhile golden boy Norris gets nothing for a blatant jump start.
This post was edited on 3/9/24 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 3/9/24 at 3:20 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:I still can't wrap my head around this one.
Meanwhile golden boy Norris gets nothing for a blatant jump start.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 3:25 pm to Drewbie
quote:
I still can't wrap my head around this one.
Don’t try to look for anything resembling consistency in F1. It’ll just drive you crazy.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 3:26 pm to BuckyCheese
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Go watch the race again. KMag pulled away from the train behind him after Hulk pitted.
I'm definitely not watching that race again.
I'll take your word for it. quote:
And those penalties were bullshite. Especially the second one. At worst they should have made him give the spot back, not ten seconds.
I totally agree, they need to improve the system. It works perfectly fine in IndyCar to make the driver give up the position.
I was also was about to post another encouraging sign from Haas. Earlier in this thread I mocked Gene Haas after firing Gunther, when he said that he expected improvements without increasing spending. Then I said of course they can make some immediate improvements like their race-day performance (strategy, reduce mistakes), and I posted a graphic showing how bad they did in the DHL pit stop competition last year (which gives F1 points for having a top-10 pit stop in each race).
Well, they did great in this race. And considering how consistently disappointing the team had been for years in race-day management, this seems to be a direct reflection on Gunther and how they improved the team by promoting Komatsu.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 3:28 pm to billjamin
Yeah their desire to create PR things has begun to do the opposite. I just cannot believe Max’s car and driving are this much better than everyone else.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:38 pm to BuckyCheese
Development over the season is always their downfall, but haas look like the 6th best team so far. RB has been a massive disappointment.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 5:11 pm to Drewbie
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I still can't wrap my head around this one.
Didn't see the replay, but did his tires move off the line?
You can move, just can't be off the line before lights go out.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 5:12 pm to Lsut81
My biggest suprise was how fricking slow the Mclaren is with DRS enabled.
I think they said they were only getting 7kph more in comparison to RB getting 30
I think they said they were only getting 7kph more in comparison to RB getting 30
Posted on 3/9/24 at 5:21 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
What if instead of giving pit stop time penalties they do what Nascar does on road tracks. Have a designated spot somewhere on the track where they do a stop and go.
I agree on the second one all they needed to do is demand he give spot back (where he cut the corner on the pass). But a drive thru penalty plus pit time penalty is a race killer.
I like drivers making an effort to pass and the harsh penalties mean less drivers risk passes if they can’t for sure make it. Some type of stop/go “on the track” might make it fairer.
I agree on the second one all they needed to do is demand he give spot back (where he cut the corner on the pass). But a drive thru penalty plus pit time penalty is a race killer.
I like drivers making an effort to pass and the harsh penalties mean less drivers risk passes if they can’t for sure make it. Some type of stop/go “on the track” might make it fairer.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 5:27 pm to Lsut81
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Didn't see the replay, but did his tires move off the line?
You can move, just can't be off the line before lights go out.
Yes, he lurched at least a foot ahead. Then he stopped right when everyone else went and it cost him a slow start.
It appears F1 decided that ended up being his penalty (the slower start) but the rules are clear he jumped the start. Thats the problem with F1, arbitrary rules application.
Can’t recall who it was but someone weaved more than once while pressured and I don’t recall a penalty.
On Mag first penalty - he was squeezed into left wall by mere inches before he squeezed back right after. Why wasn’t the first squeezer penalized?
Posted on 3/9/24 at 5:30 pm to OU Guy
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Can’t recall who it was but someone weaved more than once while pressured and I don’t recall a penalty.
A few of them did... Hamilton, Norris, Mag
Posted on 3/9/24 at 5:59 pm to NfamousPanda
That was a good arse race. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSS! MAG had dem elbows out and great to see HUL score pernts. Great drive by BEA too. Onto the Land Down Under!
Posted on 3/9/24 at 6:25 pm to Tornado Alley
Good race.
We are discussing going to Silverstone this year. It’s an iconic track and the fans are insane over F1. I’m going to price it tomorrow. I have almost 700k British Air miles so the flights won’t cost much.
We are discussing going to Silverstone this year. It’s an iconic track and the fans are insane over F1. I’m going to price it tomorrow. I have almost 700k British Air miles so the flights won’t cost much.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 6:25 pm to Tornado Alley
Man, I'm so glad Melbourne and Suzuka are next! Two great tracks. 
Posted on 3/9/24 at 6:33 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
quote:
I posted a graphic showing how bad they did in the DHL pit stop competition last year (which gives F1 points for having a top-10 pit stop in each race).
Well, they did great in this race. And considering how consistently disappointing the team had been for years in race-day management, this seems to be a direct reflection on Gunther and how they improved the team by promoting Komatsu.
They had a 2.5* something last week as well.
The improvement in pit stops is massive. They got a little better last year but they used to be over 4 seconds pretty consistently. Like they never bothered to practice or improve.
So glad frickbomb is gone.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 6:58 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Man, I'm so glad Melbourne and Suzuka are next! Two great tracks.
Followed by China, which means I won’t be watching a race live until Miami in May.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 7:29 am to pweezy
Horner is such a dumbass. He posted a Happy Mother's Day to Geri on IG and left the comments on.
Every comment is about him cheating on his first wife with Geri and now cheating on Geri with an employee
Every comment is about him cheating on his first wife with Geri and now cheating on Geri with an employee
Posted on 3/10/24 at 7:57 am to BuckyCheese
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And those penalties were bullshite. Especially the second one. At worst they should have made him give the spot back, not ten seconds.
On the 2nd - he should have given the place back immediately.
On the 1st - should have only been 5, 10 was excessive and inconsistent
Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:07 am to ApexHunterNetcode
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10 was excessive and inconsistent
I understand that this is the new rule and drivers wanted it.
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