re: 2024 Formula 1 season Thread

I still think Horner should go up there to accept the constructor's trophy just as a frick you to everyone.

Ricciardo has been done since he entered the McLaren car. Hopefully there is a chance he gets tossed early for Lawson.

The bigger question is what is going on with Hamilton? I did not watch the race so was he bad or did the alternate strategy stick him and Norris in 8th and 9th?

Completely disagree. Penalties should be decided ASAP and told to everyone. I think the better question is what should be done about the penalties in general. I think they are fine but people keep complaining that they are not tough enough.

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Completely disagree. Penalties should be decided ASAP and told to everyone. I think the better question is what should be done about the penalties in general. I think they are fine but people keep complaining that they are not tough enough.

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I see both sides. What they need go do is decide and place the time penalty in a sealed envelope to be opened after race. Teams then won’t know for sure during race so won't be able to use known penalties as strategy.

If they force a drive through that kills any chances of a good race.

I don’t know the right answer. Most races have more pit stops to take the time penalties.

To me Mags first penalty was iffy but 2nd was justified clearly. Mags was forced right next to wall right before his first penalty so to me it was a wash (both did it but Mags was ahead at start if squeezing).

About the only way they could apply time penalties during the race is announce it and then use electronic method to slow car down to equal 5 seconds (or 10) worth. Announce it will happen on lap x and begins at start of straightaway. That way other cars know where it will start so can avoid.

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I don’t know the right answer. Most races have more pit stops to take the time penalties.

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There's no right answer, but they have to keep striving for fairness.

The problem I have with the current system is illustrated by what we saw today, and it comes down to these two issues:

1. It's really hard to pass in F1. The drivers have said that they might be pacing close to 1 second a lap faster than the guy in front of him, but he still might not be able to pass, depending on the track.

2. If you incur a 5-sec penalty early in the race and there was some way to instantly move you 5 seconds back, you might lose 10 places. If you can wait until your next pit stop 15 laps later, you will lose fewer places as the field has spread out. If you've already done your last pit stop and there's 40 laps to go, then you can change the race from a position you're not even supposed to be in.

I think a reasonable improvement to the rule is that you must pit within 10 laps of incurring a time penalty, unless you're within maybe 15 laps to the end of the race.

I'm not knocking Haas for playing to the rules perfectly. It's great to see a good race day performance under Komatsu.

However, the penalty occurred early in the race and Albon, K-Mag's first victim, was victimized again as he was denied the point that Hulk got.

Edit: Oh, also K-Mag's second penalty was for putting all four wheels off the track passing Yuki. In IndyCar if you make an illegitimate pass, you have to give the position back, and sometimes the driver will give back the position before even being ordered to. F1 should be the same. It's easy, if the victim is still just behind you, you give the position back within a couple of laps. If the guy has fallen further back behind others, only then does a 5-sec penalty apply (but within 10 laps as I suggest above).

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“Toto Wolff tells Sky he thinks Mercedes now has a problem with the simulation software” They’ve now said they have problems with simulation tools on 5 separate occasions

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Max should really stick with Red Bull lol

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And worst of all, we're celebrating a slow car

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Go watch the race again.

KMag pulled away from the train behind him after Hulk pitted.

The Haas cars were faster than the other four teams behind them. KMag simply went slower in areas no one could pass then pulled out on the fast sections. Just like many other teams have done to give a teammate a pit window.

*And those penalties were bullshite. Especially the second one. At worst they should have made him give the spot back, not ten seconds.

Meanwhile golden boy Norris gets nothing for a blatant jump start.