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re: Carr willing to restructure his contract

Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:22 pm to
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3 of the 5 listed QBs won a title

Other than Stafford, in a different era.

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but he’s good enough to win if the rest of the pieces are in place.

Carr's contract makes this part difficult

Especially with a very old roster and cap mismanagement other than Carr
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:35 pm to
I’m gonna be so fricking disappointed if we restructure him and lock ourselves in for longer than next year.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:35 pm to
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What is the point of drafting a QB to sit for 3+ years while Carr plays out this contract?


It would be silly to draft a qb, he's better than Carr, but we play Carr for three years anyway.

That is crazy Slo.
Posted by tigerbait1.6
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:43 pm to
wish he would restructure to the tone of walking away
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:44 pm to
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It would be silly to draft a qb, he's better than Carr, but we play Carr for three years anyway.

I agree, which is why I don't see why people keep promoting that we draft a QB.

We're not going to let a QB with an annual cap impact of $47.6M/year ride the bench for 3 years, so a rookie can start
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 6:45 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:46 pm to
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wish he would restructure to the tone of walking away


Yea. But its obvious he see's 24 and his contract as a 'last year in Nola' and maybe just maybe he doesn't want to fail and move again. Who knows.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 6:47 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:47 pm to
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Yea. But its obvious he see's 24 and his contract as a 'last year in Nola' and maybe just maybe he doesn't want to fail and move again. Who knows.


No he understands that with Ram and Latt's issues, we're now forced to consider restructuring him. That makes that 3/100 contract into a legit 4/150 possibility. He's banking on a restructure to net another $50M in salary.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:53 pm to
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9th in nfl in passer rating with an OC that most here say is horrible.


frick off. You don't watch the fricking games if you think he's a top 10 qb in any capacity.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:57 pm to
What do you base him not being then? Passer rating is a damn good stat to judge qbs
Posted by paulbeasy
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 6:59 pm to
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3 of the 5 listed QBs won a title. 2 of them won multiple titles. Carr certainly isn’t elite, but he’s good enough to win if the rest of the pieces are in place.


Correct. Meaning a qb from a tier below Mahomes/Brees/Brady etc can win you a ship.

Matt Ryan almost won one also.

Point is Carr is on pace with these guys. If we can get the defense back to elite I see what the Saints brass sees.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:29 pm to
This should be viewed through a favourable lens imo.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43828 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:35 pm to
I definitely think carr can improve in the right situation. Unfortunately that sotuation definitely doesnt involve dennis allen.
Posted by Snipe
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:37 pm to
Anyone who thought this wasn’t happening was blind or ignorant or probably both.

Posted by paulbeasy
Member since Feb 2023
598 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:02 pm to
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And with Carr making our bad cap situation worse, we lose the opportunity to improve the defense


Except he’s going to restructure his contract, which is the whole point. Lord. fricking skull is thick as a caveman.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:06 pm to
Are you his pen pal
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:07 pm to
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Except he’s going to restructure his contract, which is the whole point.

That's not a good thing.

3/100 quickly becomes 4/150, in that case. With an artificially low 2023 (and 2024 after a restructure), the remaining 3 years comes at premium QB cost ($47M/year or so cap impact).

3/100 for 23, 24, and 25 quickly becomes something like 3/142.5 for 24-26 if we restructure. This is going to be something insane like 2/130M for 25 and 26

This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 8:09 pm
Posted by paulbeasy
Member since Feb 2023
598 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:12 pm to
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That's not a good thing.


Wrong. Saints do it regularly, and have made it work for years now.

We are 8-8 in a down year with injuries etc, and we’re sniffing the playoffs.

The Cam Jordan steep decline is the biggest worry, Carr restructure, Latt, Mt13 gone.

We need to hit in the draft badly.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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64680 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:15 pm to
I would imagine he sees being cut after 2024 like just about everyone here right? He may want to stay.
If he demands less guaranteed in a redone deal vs dropping him after 24 then thats good. We can throw you a party with the money we saved
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
1351 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:17 pm to
If we leave his contract as is, we can get out of it after 2024. One more season.

Don't touch that bitch.
Posted by TwoDatBait
Northshore, LA
Member since Jul 2011
5830 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:49 pm to
Will he play for free the next 3 years and consider his signing bonus his salary.??? That’s what he is worth
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