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The problem with the portal are the parents and agents.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:29 pm
This Heard situation stands out the most to me. He’s a 19 year old kid and from good sources, he isn’t making this decision alone. It didn’t start with him wanting to leave so I wouldn’t put this all on the kid. It’s coming from agents in the wild who represent kids at other schools. The agent world is really the wild west. These agents will do whatever it takes to land a kid. These parents are sold all their lives (especially when it has a 5 star attached) that their kid is the second coming. Once agents feed that nonsense into them, then it’s game over. There is no reasoning with that mom or dad. Especially when it can be life changing money for some families.
Works opposite with Sage Ryan. He wanted to enter the portal but he has a good family base that said he wasn’t gonna get the money out there he thought or wanted. They blocked out all these agents selling them big false dreams. Once his own in house influencers made him aware he knew his best option was at home.
I’m all about kids making money. But this is why salaries and NIL has to be collective barraged. It will make bribery a crime and legislate upfront payments from agents as it does in the NFL and MLB. Also the NBA requires agents to be partnered with them.
Works opposite with Sage Ryan. He wanted to enter the portal but he has a good family base that said he wasn’t gonna get the money out there he thought or wanted. They blocked out all these agents selling them big false dreams. Once his own in house influencers made him aware he knew his best option was at home.
I’m all about kids making money. But this is why salaries and NIL has to be collective barraged. It will make bribery a crime and legislate upfront payments from agents as it does in the NFL and MLB. Also the NBA requires agents to be partnered with them.
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:34 pm to fastlane
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Works opposite with Sage Ryan. He wanted to enter the portal but he has a good family base that said he wasn’t gonna get the money out there he thought or wanted.
Likely had little to do with family and more to do with him discovering he doesn't have any value in the portal. It's always about the $$$$ Heard has a value and a chance to put some real money in his poket and start next year. In reality he should have gone somewhere else that didn't have an entrenched starter in front of him.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:36 pm to fastlane
The NCAA is the problem with all this.
They have created this mess because they have no clue how to lead and be innovative.
They have created this mess because they have no clue how to lead and be innovative.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:36 pm to fastlane
Anyone who thinks most of these kids are making lots of life changing money are delusional and incredibly naive.
Sure, the top 2%, like Daniels, made fantastic money through NIL while in college. But… the vast majority are going to be used and abused by agents and family looking for easy handouts.
The vast majority will finish their athletic career without ever seeing an NFL paycheck. Most will end up broke and uneducated.
Sure, the top 2%, like Daniels, made fantastic money through NIL while in college. But… the vast majority are going to be used and abused by agents and family looking for easy handouts.
The vast majority will finish their athletic career without ever seeing an NFL paycheck. Most will end up broke and uneducated.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:37 pm to fastlane
Uncle Ray-Ray running his mouth giving advice wanting to cash in on nephew’s worth.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:38 pm to saint tiger225
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The NCAA is the problem with all this. They have created this mess because they have no clue how to lead and be innovative.
This is a given. The calendar is beyond messed up. Look at Kirby’s speech after beating FSU.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:40 pm to fastlane
This happens when your relatives are greedy assholes that care more about themselves than you. Same with the agents. It's why I'm glad Campbell and Jones love LSU so much. As freshman starting tackles, both could have been looking for deals from other programs after their first season, but neither did.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:43 pm to Datbayoubengal
How do you know they didn’t and LSU just paid them because they started. LSU of course paid them after their freshman year.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:47 pm to Tammany Tom
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Anyone who thinks most of these kids are making lots of life changing money are delusional and incredibly naive.
"Life changing" is relative.
For a kid that comes from a 2 parent home with a combined income of $150-$200k+ a one time $100k payment may not be "life changing". But for a kid who comes from a single parent home living on government assistance with a household income of $30k, and $100k payment very well could be "life changing". Now, it may not be "life sustaining". You aren't going to live 10, 15, 20 years off of one $100k payment.
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Most will end up broke and uneducated.
That was the case long BEFORE the "legalization" of NIL. The mindset now is if someone is offering you $100k today you take it and worry about "tomorrow" as it comes along. None of us are guaranteed tomorrow. So I can understand why some choose to take the money on the table now.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:54 pm to fastlane
Same thing with the QB from tOSU. Even though he started this season, Day wouldn't guarantee him that he is starting next season, so his dad told him to take his ball and go somewhere else.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:55 pm to Tammany Tom
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The vast majority will finish their athletic career without ever seeing an NFL paycheck. Most will end up broke and uneducated
They asked for this so why should I care?
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:57 pm to fastlane
Or it could be as simple as the guy let the vision he had for himself be known before he committed to Lsu and again after he committed to Lsu. Where Lsu currently sits having an entrenched starter at LT doesn't align with Heard's vision for his career. He gave Lsu a shot bc that's his hometown team. It didn't go as he planned. It happens. Stop blaming NIL for everything. The guy literally told anyone who would listen his vision before he signed. You only get one life. Let that guy do what he feels is the best decision for his life without ridiculing him or his parents when it doesn't work out in our favor. Same parents and player we were praising when he decided to come to lsu a year ago.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 2:02 pm to Mannyostean15
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Or it could be as simple as the guy let the vision he had for himself be known before he committed to Lsu and again after he committed to Lsu. Where Lsu currently sits having an entrenched starter at LT doesn't align with Heard's vision for his career.
Not what happened at all. He’s is not ready to be an SEC caliber starter at LT. If he was Bama would have taken him over Procter and he’d be starting there with a bank roll.
His family may think he’s ready but they aren’t at practice everyday.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 2:26 pm to fastlane
They just need to rescind the transfer rule, but they won't, because of the aforementioned agents and others whose livelihoods are dependent upon it.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 2:47 pm to fastlane
Problem with the portal is there isn’t a problem except what you all are making up. There is zero logical reason why a student athlete shouldn’t be able to transfer schools and play providing they have the GPA required to do so. You wouldn’t tell any other scholarship student they had to “sit out a year” to transfer schools. These scholarships are handed out on a year to year basis. Meaning the school itself isn’t wiling to invest in more than a year at a time in these players. It’s irrational to expect them to invest back more time.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 2:49 pm to fastlane
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This Heard situation stands out the most to me. He’s a 19 year old kid and from good sources, he isn’t making this decision alone.
This is 100% the only reason Jacoby Mathews signed with Texas A&M out of Ponchatoula when he dreamed of playing for LSU. Family sold him out for more money on signing day morning.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 2:55 pm to fastlane
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Works opposite with Sage Ryan. He wanted to enter the portal but he has a good family base that said he wasn’t gonna get the money out there he thought or wanted. They blocked out all these agents selling them big false dreams. Once his own in house influencers made him aware he knew his best option was at home
You think Sage Ryan’s motivation to enter the portal was based on getting a payday?
I think you are wrong, and I think there is a decent chance he still hits the portal.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:02 pm to fastlane
The man holding them down?
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:04 pm to fastlane
quote:What are you talking about? That EXACTLY what happened.quote:Not what happened at all. He’s is not ready to be an SEC caliber starter at LT. If he was Bama would have taken him over Procter and he’d be starting there with a bank roll.
Or it could be as simple as the guy let the vision he had for himself be known before he committed to Lsu and again after he committed to Lsu. Where Lsu currently sits having an entrenched starter at LT doesn't align with Heard's vision for his career.
His family may think he’s ready but they aren’t at practice everyday.
Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:05 pm to Alt26
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But for a kid who comes from a single parent home living on government assistance with a household income of $30k, and $100k payment very well could be "life changing".
Not really. The kid from a good family has been taught the "value" of money and how to make it work for the athlete. Maybe make him/her prosperous for the rest of his/her life, if invested properly.
The other athlete thinks he is rich and usually squanders it within a couple of years. No education, no income, but Mom has a home that she can't afford to maintain.
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