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re: Trump vows to replace ObamaCare with his own alternative
Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:57 am to jimmy the leg
Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:57 am to jimmy the leg
That's all water under the bridge and yall are arguing about semantics.
What's important it WHY THE frick IS TRUMP EVEN THINKING ABOUT OBAMACARE?
I am really bummed about this. It's impossible to replace at this point and nobody even cares. I'm concerned with how out of touch he is - this comes in large part from ZERO campaigning.
The future of our republic as we knew it hinges on a 78-year old man child / buffoon.
What's important it WHY THE frick IS TRUMP EVEN THINKING ABOUT OBAMACARE?
I am really bummed about this. It's impossible to replace at this point and nobody even cares. I'm concerned with how out of touch he is - this comes in large part from ZERO campaigning.
The future of our republic as we knew it hinges on a 78-year old man child / buffoon.
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 9:59 am
Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:59 am to SirWinston
If Trump wants to attract younger people, hes better off focusing on housing and education reform.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:59 am to frogtown
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He should not have signed any legislation until the border was secure. Massive failure on his part.
I don’t disagree with that.
However, given the stance of the RINOs at the time, I would suggest that his veto would have been overridden in a “bipartisan” effort.
Nonetheless, he messed up in not forcing their hand.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 10:01 am to SirWinston
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What's important it WHY THE frick IS TRUMP EVEN THINKING ABOUT OBAMACARE? I am really bummed about this. It's impossible to replace at this point and nobody even cares.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:03 am to jimmy the leg
Yes.
Focus on:
1. Woke culture / Dems being ridic
2. Border crisis (how we can give $100 billion to Ukraine but not $8 for our border
3. America First/ populist shite like no wars, taking care our our own citizens, keeping manufacturing jobs here
If Trump wants to be lazy he should pick Vivek as his running mate and have him do most of the heavy lifting.
Focus on:
1. Woke culture / Dems being ridic
2. Border crisis (how we can give $100 billion to Ukraine but not $8 for our border
3. America First/ populist shite like no wars, taking care our our own citizens, keeping manufacturing jobs here
If Trump wants to be lazy he should pick Vivek as his running mate and have him do most of the heavy lifting.
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:05 am to SirWinston
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Focus on: 1. Woke culture / Dems being ridic 2. Border crisis (how we can give $100 billion to Ukraine but not $8 for our border 3. America First/ populist shite like no wars, taking care our our own citizens, keeping manufacturing jobs here
I am.
But there is no reason to limit your list to just those.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 12:27 pm to rmnldr
Trump had his chance on healthcare and blew it.
There isn’t much defending him on this.
There isn’t much defending him on this.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:23 pm to David_DJS
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I didn't say fire Fauci. I'm well aware of the limitations in dealing with entrenched bureaucrats. I said remove him from the White House Coronavirus Task Force.
What would he have gained from that? Do you think that would have changed anything? You would have had to get rid of the entire bureaucracy.
I also believe that removing the head of the NIH and NIAID and the leading "expert" on pandemics in the US, having led government efforts to fight the Swine Flu pandemic in 2009 and the EBOLA outbreak in 2014 would have been the same as firing him. Leaving him off that task force would have resulted in impeachment, as well.
He might have gotten away with it if he had done it at the start of the pandemic, but I don't think anybody knew Fauci's involvement in gain of function and his profit motive with the vaccine at that time. By the time anybody knew Fauci was dirty, he had already established himself as the media darling and face of the pandemic. Removing him would have been impeachable. No doubt in my mind.
This post was edited on 12/27/23 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:51 pm to Jax-Tiger
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What would he have gained from that? Do you think that would have changed anything? You would have had to get rid of the entire bureaucracy.
I would guess that we agree that Covid, or more specifically - Covid response - was something like 98% politics and 2% heathcare. Yes, Fauci was dirty in other ways, but overriding all of that - he was a Dem operative, as is so much of the bureaucratic state. From the beginning of the pandemic, it was reported/known that Fauci had deep ties to the Left. Didn't we see "love letters" of his to Hillary?
To answer your question - assigning Fauci to something unrelated to Covid wouldn't have done much on its own, but clearing Fauci from the deck isn't the only thing Trump should have done. CDC/NIH guidelines like the death certificate matching program were understood by many (in real time) to be what they, in fact, were - bastardized science with a clear political objectives behind it. Trump needed to do whatever was necessary to shut that shite down.
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I also believe that removing the head of the NIH and NIAID and the leading "expert" on pandemics in the US, having led government efforts to fight the Swine Flu pandemic in 2009 and the EBOLA outbreak in 2014 would have been the same as firing him. Leaving him off that task force would have resulted in impeachment, as well.
We didn't shut half of the economy down, curb individual rights, suspended educating kids, etc., over the swine flu or EBOLA outbreak. Fauci was not an expert on the vast majority of what was done for Covid response.
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Removing him would have been impeachable. No doubt in my mind.
I don't agree, but even if I'm wrong and you're right about this - so what? I'd rather have seen Trump go down swinging than have his presidency (further) sabotaged while taking the knee like he did.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 3:58 pm to jimmy the leg
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However, given the stance of the RINOs at the time, I would suggest that his veto would have been overridden in a “bipartisan” effort.
Thats a failure of leadership.
Politics requires tradeoffs.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:00 pm to Jax-Tiger
Don still has to be better
he nailed 99% of things but failed hard regarding covid
he nailed 99% of things but failed hard regarding covid
Posted on 12/27/23 at 4:10 pm to Diamondawg
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People have been paying for Medicare their entire working career????
Not sure what you are asking but to not have to pay Part A premiums you have to pay into the system for 40 quarters or more.
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If you paid Medicare taxes for less than 30 quarters, the standard Part A premium will be $506.00. If you paid Medicare taxes for 30-39 quarters, the standard Part A premium will be $278.00. Some people pay a higher premium if they don't enroll when they're first eligible.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Thats a failure of leadership.
I disagree.
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Politics requires tradeoffs.
So do whores.
But whores aren’t supposed to be representing “We the People.”
As such, Congress had a job to do.
Instead of being public servants, they chose to be politicians.
They chose an open border over security.
YOU may be okay with that, I’m not.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:18 pm to jimmy the leg
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So do whores.
But whores aren’t supposed to be representing “We the People.”
In an ideal world, but we dont live in one.
You dont get anything accomplished in politics without compromise.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You dont get anything accomplished in politics without compromise.
And if those that you wish to work with won’t play ball…then what.
You assume that the GOPe would have worked towards a compromise.
I don’t.
Like the Dems, they wanted things to go back to “normal.”
I believe that the effort to keep funding for a border wall to zip was a bipartisan effort.
The RINOs were NEVER going to compromise imho.
Trump was in the right on this matter - period.
I won’t compromise on my beliefs concerning the “trans movement.”
My heals are dug in on the matter.
How about it Roger, will you cave to the whims of the “gender fluid.”
I’m assuming that you will, because “leaders lead.”
That’s a hard pass for me.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Hes been promising to end it for years, still really has no plan. he loves to make promises with zero detail.
Holy shite, we agree on something.
Posted on 12/27/23 at 11:06 pm to jimmy the leg
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I won’t compromise on my beliefs concerning the “trans movement.”
Trump already has.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:16 am to roadGator
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I won’t compromise on my beliefs concerning the “trans movement.”
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Trump already has.
So you should be the happiest poster on TD.
Congratulations to you and your ilk.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:19 am to SirWinston
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The future of our republic as we knew it hinges on a 78-year old man child / buffoon.
Heckin sad, isn’t it.
Should’ve stayed on the DeSantis train instead of being duped by the muh poll psyop
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:31 am to David_DJS
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so what? I'd rather have seen Trump go down swinging than have his presidency (further) sabotaged while taking the knee like he did.
He would have simply been replaced by someone far worse imho.
I find it amusing when people view the world without context. Like when woke supremacists tear down statues based on today’s social construct.
Not being able to view things in context is some that the TDS crew and leftists have in common.
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