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re: Trump vows to replace ObamaCare with his own alternative

Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:36 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:36 pm to
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That will definitely change this time with his impeccable skills of persuasion and compromise.


So Congress was being petulant to “get even.” I mean, I would have preferred that the RINOs just secure the border but nope…they too had TDS.

I’m not sure how that is in Trump.

You either represent the people, or you don’t. This isn’t difficult.
This post was edited on 12/26/23 at 11:38 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111700 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:38 pm to
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I’m not sure how that is in Trump.


That’s like saying a coach who loses his team bears no responsibility for it.

“The buck stops, gosh… I don’t know, somewhere over there.”
-Trump, probably
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:42 pm to
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That’s like saying a coach who loses his team bears no responsibility for it.


No, it’s not.

The members of Congress are supposed to represent their constituency. They, LIKE TRUMP, wanted a secure border.

Instead, the RINOs showed their true colors.

Your revision of their actions not withstanding, your analogy would be akin to players not wanting to play for Saban because he yells sometimes.

Then again, his players generally aren’t little bitches.

At least you are being honest about your support of RINOs and open borders.

Congrats I guess.

I would have preferred a wall.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111700 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:46 pm to
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Your revision of their actions not withstanding, your analogy would be akin to players not wanting to play for Saban because he yells sometimes.


No. You’re just making shite up.

Trump didn’t get the legislation passed. He failed. He promised he would get it passed. He didn’t.

It turns out that insulting everyone within a 10 mile radius of you isn’t always the best way to form a winning coalition.

He’s undisciplined and erratic. That’s on him. No one else.

quote:

At least you are being honest about your support of RINOs and open borders.


If I supported open borders and Obamacare, I wouldn’t be criticizing him for failing on those two fronts. You dumb fricking count.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:50 pm to
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No. You’re just making shite up.


Wrong.

Congress (RINOs) didn’t support him you disingenuous piece of shite.

To hell with your rewrite of history.

The votes weren’t there. Period.

You really are a moron to try to spin it any other way.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:52 pm to
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It turns out that insulting everyone within a 10 mile radius of you isn’t always the best way to form a winning coalition.


So representing your constituents takes a back seat to “feelings?”

Good God man, what a soft arse stance. You may as well cut off your balls and pecker.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35673 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:55 pm to
quote:

slash the now-popular health care option


Popular because its fricking 3rd world health care for illegals who think its the norm.

No good doctor accepts that as payment.

Obamacare is cattlecar, worthless.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111700 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:56 pm to
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Congress (RINOs) didn’t support him you disingenuous piece of shite.


I didn’t say otherwise. The vote to ditch Obamacare failed by one vote. A really good negotiator, who had even written books on negotiation, should have been able to turn one vote on such a spectacularly bad piece of legislation.

He didn’t. Because he’s all talk and no execution.

LINK
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111700 posts
Posted on 12/26/23 at 11:59 pm to
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So representing your constituents takes a back seat to “feelings?”


It shouldn’t. But it came down to McCain. And that obviously played a part.

quote:

Good God man, what a soft arse stance.


Are you arguing people don’t hold grudges in real life and that you can run around insulting people and hope they do the right thing in regards to issues that involve you? Because that seems like something a dumbfrick would say.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111700 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 12:00 am to
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Obamacare is cattlecar, worthless.


And with each 10% rate hike in premiums to a small business, another group of people end up in the exchanges.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 12:09 am to
This guy, and the people he controlled were not switching their votes under ANY circumstances.



The American people were sold out, and you are deflecting from that with some bullshite narrative tied solely to your emotions.

Pathetic.

TDS is as real of a mental disorder as gender dysphoria.

I mean, they are kind of the same thing at their core. You ignore reality to better align with your emotions.

You do you though (on either account).

With your acute TDS, you should probably go ahead and put one of these in your yard:



Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 12:11 am to
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keep making excuses


It’s called the reality of the circumstances.

Go ahead and put a sign in your yard as well.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111700 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 5:41 am to
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The American people were sold out, and you are deflecting from that with some bullshite narrative tied solely to your emotions.

Pointing out reality isn’t “being emotional.” It’s the opposite.

You can’t even deal with reality. Keep deflecting any criticism from Trump to other people. Keep pretending he makes no mistakes. Keep pretending he’s the Second Coming of Jesus.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25573 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:23 am to
There's evidence that shows different.

Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5064 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:30 am to
quote:

So Congress was being petulant to “get even.” I mean, I would have preferred that the RINOs just secure the border but nope…they too had TDS.

I’m not sure how that is in Trump.

You either represent the people, or you don’t. This isn’t difficult.


Border security got Trump elected. He should have focused on it first. He should not have signed any legislation until the border was secure. Massive failure on his part.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262217 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:32 am to
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Border security got Trump elected. He should have focused on it first. He should not have signed any legislation until the border was secure. Massive failure on his part.


He doesnt know how.

All his life he just bullied people into submission because of his money. He cant do it now, and its killing him.

He has no clue how to get support for his projects, and honestly dont think he has intentions of making them happen.

Donny gets far more mileage out of being the national victim than he does actually helping anyone. This is just more dumb shite to claim everyone is against him. blah blah blah
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46521 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:38 am to
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quote: “I will come up with a much better, and less expensive, alternative! People will be happy, not sad!”

Then say it. What is your plan?


I was waiting to hear John McCain and the D.C. Republicans plan in 2016 when R's controlled the House and Senate. They all ran on repealing Obamacare and when they got their shot they all shite the bed.....the ol thumbs down from McCain and the dude had years to prepare for his alternative plan......hmmmmm.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21983 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:39 am to
Just lost my vote

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22470 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 8:44 am to
quote:

“I will come up with a much better, and less expensive, alternative! People will be happy, not sad!”


Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34719 posts
Posted on 12/27/23 at 9:55 am to
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Pointing out reality


I did that.

I pointed out the reality that he had ZERO support from RINOs on these issues, regardless of how you attempt to re-write history.

Trump dicked up a lot of things, however, these two instances fall solely at the feet of the RINOs.

They ignored the wishes of their constituents when the opportunity was presented to actually affect change…Period.

This is what happened.

No feelings…just facts.

It’s called a voting record.

“We the people” were summarily dismissed.

The end.

Blaming Trump in these instances is pure TDS.
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