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College Grads (pre-2000) - have you talked to your Alma mater lately?
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:21 am
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:21 am
From a recent article: "For some in academia, “the administration” is defined as a shadowy, amorphous group of suit-wearing, exorbitantly paid employees. They are to be vilified for making knuckleheaded, illogical, tone-deaf decisions that put the institution at risk, insult the faculty, demoralize the staff, enrage students, and underestimate the power of the alumni." LINK
I've recently been in touch with the Alumni Dept. at my old college about a facilities improvement project. The level of indignation is breathtaking. It's dismissiveness on steroids. Expectations set - Expectations evaporate - with no further explanation. Telling you what you want to hear, then "poof". Inordinate delays in responding. What has happened to reason and common sense inside the Hallowed Halls? It's as if the admins and assistants are wearing bubble wrap and just pushing buttons - like a video game. I always give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're short-handed and overwhelmed, but it's reached suspect levels. The indignation is real... Is this a reflection of the 21st Century Protocol? Are we just supposed to shrug our shoulders and walk away, thereby validating the nonsense and inefficiencies?
I've recently been in touch with the Alumni Dept. at my old college about a facilities improvement project. The level of indignation is breathtaking. It's dismissiveness on steroids. Expectations set - Expectations evaporate - with no further explanation. Telling you what you want to hear, then "poof". Inordinate delays in responding. What has happened to reason and common sense inside the Hallowed Halls? It's as if the admins and assistants are wearing bubble wrap and just pushing buttons - like a video game. I always give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're short-handed and overwhelmed, but it's reached suspect levels. The indignation is real... Is this a reflection of the 21st Century Protocol? Are we just supposed to shrug our shoulders and walk away, thereby validating the nonsense and inefficiencies?
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Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:26 am to tigerpawl
Public universities are an extension/arm of the government. The government doesn’t give a shite about its balance sheet because the money the government manages/spends isn’t its own money…it’s your money. They have no reason to be accountable to anyone.
My degree from a once respectable school is now cheapened by the mismanagement of the institution in nearly every facet. They will never get another cent from me via donations and my children won’t be attending.
I feel bad for the poor kids they force to call up alumni and beg for cash, however. Tough gig.
My degree from a once respectable school is now cheapened by the mismanagement of the institution in nearly every facet. They will never get another cent from me via donations and my children won’t be attending.
I feel bad for the poor kids they force to call up alumni and beg for cash, however. Tough gig.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:27 am to tigerpawl
I used to regularly donate to the LSU Foundation. All of that stopped after they took Middleton's name off the library, and how they treated his family in the aftermath.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:36 am to boxcarbarney
In short, there has been an unsettling decline in decorum.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:39 am to tigerpawl
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short-handed and overwhelmed
Short handed doing what exactly. There is like a million of them, and they don't produce anything. They have to actively make up shite to do just to claim something as their responsibility.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:44 am to tigerpawl
I’m not giving UGA a dime.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:47 am to Specktricity
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Short handed doing what exactly.
Bingo. Here’s an example
The law center has 30 professors (excluding adjuncts) and 65(!!!) staff members. For a school with about 500 students.
What in the sweet frick do 65 staff members do for a student body (i.e., the paying customers) that is smaller than most high schools? Exactly DICK, speaking from experience. The admissions office, the career service office…typically dark with some sort of “out to lunch” sign taped to the door.
ETA: here’s an anecdote from my time there. The career services office had 4 people, but they only really dealt with the top 10% of each class of about 150-200 kids. So 60 students in total…you need to pay 4 people high 5-figure to low 6-figure salaries to help 60 kids with already stellar grades find jobs?!?!
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 10:56 am
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:50 am to tigerpawl
Why anyone would donate to a public institution that already charged them thousands upon thousands of dollars for a piece of paper baffles me
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:54 am to SouthPlains
I used to take their calls and would donate a bit here and there. But then they spent $70,000 to remove a boulder from campus because some writer referred to it by the n-word 100 years ago. And I realized that if they have enough money to spend on that ridiculousness they don't need any of my hard earned cash.
This story is also scary because it shows just how far people will go to be victims and see racism in anything.
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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — The University of Wisconsin removed a large boulder from its Madison campus on Friday at the request of minority students who view the rock as a symbol of racism.
Chamberlin Rock, on the top of Observatory Hill, is named after Thomas Crowder Chamberlin, a geologist and former university president. Students of color on campus say the rock represents a history of discrimination. The boulder was referred to as a derogatory name for Black people in a Wisconsin State Journal story in 1925.
The derogatory term was commonly used in the 1920s to describe any large dark rock. University historians have not found any other time that the term was used, but they said the Ku Klux Klan was active on campus at that time, the Wisconsin State Journal reported.
This story is also scary because it shows just how far people will go to be victims and see racism in anything.
This post was edited on 12/15/23 at 10:56 am
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:56 am to SouthPlains
quote:Accreditation
What in the sweet frick do 65 staff members do for a student body that is smaller than most high schools?
It’s the one and only area where I’ve learned that the school genuinely deserves the benefit of the doubt. Accreditation guidelines are freaking insane, and only escalating every year. You can’t give all of that stupid busy work to faculty who actually need to teach students and be productive researchers, so you hire another bureaucrat to plug the new holes that the accreditation boards keep creating.
Now we should absolutely be able to consolidate some of that work down to a smaller number of staff if assigned these roles with any kind of systematic oversight, instead of the ad-how basis that most universities seem to use. So the upper level administration is far from blameless.
But still, the accrediting boards are the primary driver of much of what is wrong with academia. And the over-bureaucratization of campuses almost surely falls in that bin
Posted on 12/15/23 at 10:58 am to tigerpawl
Public colleges are generally bloated messes of people that tend to hate people like me.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:00 am to funnystuff
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Accreditation
I’m sure that’s a big part of the problem, and you likely have much more insight and knowledge in this area than I ever will. The whole system is broken and in need of an overhaul.
It seemed patently insane to me even as a young adult that we were learning the practice of law from people who had never practiced law, we were learning management from someone who had never managed anything, we were learning how to run a business from someone who had been a teacher since the day they got their PhD 30 years ago.
I’m obviously bitter haha
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:14 am to tigerpawl
Both universities from which I received degrees in Louisana can pound sand if they are looking for any donations from me. Marxist prog scum
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:16 am to tigerpawl
I was slightly more polite with them, but I told them, roughly, they could burn in hell, and not to write to me again.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:18 am to tigerpawl
I would 
if LSU called asking for money.
I would really
if LSU called asking for money for NIL purposes.
if LSU called asking for money. I would really
if LSU called asking for money for NIL purposes. Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:20 am to tigerpawl
frick no
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:20 am to Lima Whiskey
quote:I can't help but think that reaching out to them is perceived as an interruption to installing "the new culture", and reminds them of how counterproductive it is - yet they do it anyway to appease the New World Order.
I was slightly more polite with them, but I told them, roughly, they could burn in hell, and not to write to me again.
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:23 am to tigerpawl
That’s fair, I agree with that
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:29 am to Lima Whiskey
quote:Unfortunately, it hinders the entire purpose of the college in producing top-notch students. Instead, it renders students with distorted ideas of entitlement. Dedication, honor, and work ethic seem to be in the back seat.
That’s fair, I agree with that
Posted on 12/15/23 at 11:31 am to tigerpawl
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Dedication, honor, and work ethic seem to be in the back seat.
Those are the ideas I grew up with, but I think we’re literally a different people, with a completely different culture, than those who inhabit these universities now.
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