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Trey Murphy shouldn't get the max
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:50 pm
He is an unbelievable shooter and good defender but his playmaking skills are lacking. He's nowhere near the passer that BI is and can't create his own shot. Hope we can keep him once his rookie contract us up but giving $30M+/year to him might be a mistake if he doesn't expand his offensive arsenal.
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:53 pm to yaboidarrell
He'll get a max on almost potential alone. Dudes shooting 40% from 3 that can dunk at his height don't grow on trees.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:54 pm to yaboidarrell
He’s 23 and continues to show gradual improvement year after year. He’s getting 30 mil and we better be the ones to give him that.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 12/14/23 at 12:57 pm to yaboidarrell
Someone with elite size, shooting, athleticism is getting paid a max or close to it.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:02 pm to yaboidarrell
quote:Agreed...
Trey Murphy shouldn't get the max
He should get more than the max
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:13 pm to shel311
I don't think people understand how rare a player like Trey is. 50/40/90 player with his athleticism, elite range, efficiency, and touch around the basket is almost a unicorn. He's a modern NBA's prototype.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:21 pm to yaboidarrell
Its a mistake if the pelicans believe this and don’t give him the max. Murphy is seen in many nba circles as a rising star. And in todays nba- how hes built,his shooting, athleticism and defensive potential- is what you want in any wing.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 1:38 pm to yaboidarrell
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Trey Murphy shouldn't get the max
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:08 pm to yaboidarrell
$30 million isn’t the max, especially when his new deal would start in 2025-2026. $30 million would be 19% of the cap then. NBA salaries are inflating like everything else. Go back just a few years to when Trey was a rookie and Lonzo got paid, 19% of the cap was $21 million,
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:14 pm to TigerinATL
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$30 million isn’t the max, especially when his new deal would start in 2025-2026. $30 million would be 19% of the cap then. NBA salaries are inflating like everything else. Go back just a few years to when Trey was a rookie and Lonzo got paid, 19% of the cap was $21 million,
Thanks. I was confused when I saw the title. I didn't know why anyone was talking about a max.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:40 pm to yaboidarrell
I agree he shouldn't get the max.
I'm not giving Trey Murphy a 5 year $240M contract. Using Mobley's numbers here, which would be the same scenario for Trey.
You want to pay your 3rd or 4th guy $48M/yr? That's ridiculous.
He can get 25% max of a salary cap of likely $165M, so his first year would be $41M. I'm sorry but i'm not giving that to Trey, and the NBA needs to stop handing out max contracts like they are candy. They should be for the star or two on the team.
Jaylen Brown was a better player after his 4 years in Boston and he didn't get a max. He averaged 20ppg on 38% from 3 and is an elite defender in year 4 before he signed his new contract. He got 21% of the cap, which many at the time thought was a bit of a bargain. He proved himself over the next 4 years and then signed a 5/$305M supermax contract.
Is Trey the best player on our team? NO. so why are some of you wanting to pay him like he is? 20% of the max is more than enough for Trey if he continues along his current projection.
I'm not giving Trey Murphy a 5 year $240M contract. Using Mobley's numbers here, which would be the same scenario for Trey.
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Projections on the estimated salary cap for the 2025-26 season, when Mobley's deal begins, could be $164.6 million. So, if Mobley were to put pen to paper next summer, he could sign a mammoth five-year deal starting at $238.7 million but could climb as high as $286.4 million if he were to win NBA MVP, win Defensive Player of the Year or be named to an All-NBA team in the fourth year of his rookie deal.
You want to pay your 3rd or 4th guy $48M/yr? That's ridiculous.
He can get 25% max of a salary cap of likely $165M, so his first year would be $41M. I'm sorry but i'm not giving that to Trey, and the NBA needs to stop handing out max contracts like they are candy. They should be for the star or two on the team.
Jaylen Brown was a better player after his 4 years in Boston and he didn't get a max. He averaged 20ppg on 38% from 3 and is an elite defender in year 4 before he signed his new contract. He got 21% of the cap, which many at the time thought was a bit of a bargain. He proved himself over the next 4 years and then signed a 5/$305M supermax contract.
Is Trey the best player on our team? NO. so why are some of you wanting to pay him like he is? 20% of the max is more than enough for Trey if he continues along his current projection.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:43 pm to yaboidarrell
There isn't a max guy on our team. I don't think that will be the conversation when they negotiate with Murphy. I'm sure he will get a good deal though and will be with us for the long term. He is definitely a future star for us..
Posted on 12/14/23 at 3:05 pm to whatiknowsofar
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at his height don't grow on trees
too bad, we could use the shade
Posted on 12/14/23 at 3:12 pm to MrBarry
quote:So if he was dead set on it, you'd trade him or let him walk? You're not going to get requisite value in that scenario.
I'm not giving Trey Murphy a 5 year $240M contract
quote:The number isn't that daunting when you do it as a % of the cap. 3rd best players or just good, young players get a max regularly.
You want to pay your 3rd or 4th guy $48M/yr?
quote:That's the equivalent to roughly $30 mil right now. If you Trey were coming into his extension now, it would seem much more palatable to give him $30mil but it's truly no different than $40 mil 2 seasons from now.
He can get 25% max of a salary cap of likely $165M, so his first year would be $41M. I'm sorry but i'm not giving that to Trey
quote:2 reasons
Is Trey the best player on our team? NO. so why are some of you wanting to pay him like he is?
1. If you don't, he's gone
2. You project him to be your 2nd or 3rd best player during that contract
quote:It's really not, he would not sign for that, darn near zero chance.
20% of the max is more than enough for Trey if he continues along his current projection.
I'd argue his projection is easily worth a max. 50/40/90 6'10" dudes who can project to give you 20ppg or close to it... That's a max player.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 12/14/23 at 4:00 pm to shel311
Yeah, idk what he’s worth, but I definitely wouldn’t let him walk. I’d be exploring ways to offload CJ, Ingram or Zion before I let Trey Murphy walk over $5M-$10M a year.
He’s a guy with an awesome skillset for today’s nba, he’s improving, his character is elite and he seemingly wants to be here.
The only way I’m parting with a Trey Murphy type of player is if he’s part of a larger trade to get an Anthony Edwards or Tyrese Haliburton type of player (which obviously isn’t going to happen in any kind of realistic scenario).
He’s a guy with an awesome skillset for today’s nba, he’s improving, his character is elite and he seemingly wants to be here.
The only way I’m parting with a Trey Murphy type of player is if he’s part of a larger trade to get an Anthony Edwards or Tyrese Haliburton type of player (which obviously isn’t going to happen in any kind of realistic scenario).
Posted on 12/14/23 at 4:05 pm to brmark70816
quote:There are 2 - BI and Zion.
There isn't a max guy on our team.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 4:12 pm to yaboidarrell
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usedtobemyboidarrell
With that take.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 4:16 pm to yaboidarrell
Catch and shoot guy that can dunk. And he shoots a really really good %. And he’s really tall. However he can’t really create his own shot or take over a game as the lead option. Doesn’t seem like a max guy to me.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 4:21 pm to ScoopAndScore
quote:A 6'9 wing who put up 15 a game on 48/40/90 at 22 years old is a max player.
Catch and shoot guy that can dunk. And he shoots a really really good %. And he’s really tall. However he can’t really create his own shot or take over a game as the lead option. Doesn’t seem like a max guy to me.
Small sample size, but through 5 games this season, he's at 17ppg with a .673 TS%
And he's still getting better.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 4:25 pm to ScoopAndScore
Its like me saying Zion when healthy is just guy who makes layups and shoots a high percentage. Not a big deal lol
Hes never been given the opportunity to create or take over as a lead option so I’m not going to hold that against him. Part of signing him to this deal is giving him those opportunities which he’s capable of doing.
Hes never been given the opportunity to create or take over as a lead option so I’m not going to hold that against him. Part of signing him to this deal is giving him those opportunities which he’s capable of doing.
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