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Best Defensive attack against GT
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:19 am
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:19 am
Since we have to prepare for an offense that we have never faced, what do you think is the best defensive scheme to stop the triple option, utilizing LSU's best defensive players?
1. Stay in our basic 4-3 defense...but what do we do with Chad Jones?
2. Go to a 3-4 defense and use CJ or Ryan Baker as the 4th linebacker.
3. Go to a 4-4 defense and with CJ and RB as the other linebacker.
I think we should employ the 4-4 against GT, but do we have a coach to teach it!!!
1. Stay in our basic 4-3 defense...but what do we do with Chad Jones?
2. Go to a 3-4 defense and use CJ or Ryan Baker as the 4th linebacker.
3. Go to a 4-4 defense and with CJ and RB as the other linebacker.
I think we should employ the 4-4 against GT, but do we have a coach to teach it!!!
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Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:21 am to addistiger
Back in the day, when Paul Johnson was coaching a dominant Georgia Southern program, McNeese played them on seperate occasions. I believe they were 1-2 against them.
The one win, our DC switched over to a 3-3-5 scheme. Worked great and slowed the attack down to the point where Ga. Southern could never pull away and kept them in check.
The one win, our DC switched over to a 3-3-5 scheme. Worked great and slowed the attack down to the point where Ga. Southern could never pull away and kept them in check.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:25 am to Prominentwon
not a bad idea, but our DL is pretty decent against the run, so I would rather us have 4 instead of 3.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:29 am to addistiger
it scares me to say it but if they smack Nesbitt around, pop him with big hits as opposed to wrapping up at his feet, he'll go out. hes not fragile but hes not Tebow either. when the backup Shaw comes in, the offense comes to a dead halt.
This post was edited on 12/8/08 at 10:31 am
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:31 am to addistiger
I would really like to see Alem start at DE in sort of a standup DE/OLB capacity much in the same way that USC uses Clay Mathews
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:33 am to addistiger
Again, play your base defense, tackle the QB EVERY play and punish the pitch man.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:36 am to deaux68
I think that we should stick with the "Chinese Fire Drill" defensive scheme that we've perfected over the course of the last month.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:37 am to deaux68
Express pkg on DL. man to man on corners, LBs have gap, and let the safeties roam free.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:37 am to deaux68
Im going to throw it out there and say that if they get outside the tackles we are screwed. None of our d-backs have been tackling worth a shite. With the exception of Peterson, and Taylor if they get the ball past the initial push of our LBs we are gonna be in for some trouble. However, I think that even if GaTech starts off big they will get stopped in the second half.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:43 am to lctigers2
This should do the trick. 
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:45 am to lctigers2
Defending the option comes down to assignment football...which requires discipline.
If we carry out our assignments we should shut them down, we should win more than our share of the 1 on 1 engagements.
However, it will also require one of our DBs to make an openfield tackle, something we have not shown the ability to do.
Our poor tackling in combination with our inability to either know our assignments or carry them out does not bode well for us I am afraid.
I would like to see Baker and Brooks used, as they have shown the ability to make open field tackles all year on ST. I doubt we see a wholesale change in defensive alignment.
If we carry out our assignments we should shut them down, we should win more than our share of the 1 on 1 engagements.
However, it will also require one of our DBs to make an openfield tackle, something we have not shown the ability to do.
Our poor tackling in combination with our inability to either know our assignments or carry them out does not bode well for us I am afraid.
I would like to see Baker and Brooks used, as they have shown the ability to make open field tackles all year on ST. I doubt we see a wholesale change in defensive alignment.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 10:59 am to addistiger
Firing Malleveto is step #1 
Posted on 12/8/08 at 11:02 am to tigerfoot
G.T. runs the mid-line veer.As previously stated, it's assignment football. I would run a 4-3. D-tackles and Mike respon. for fullback. ends got q.b. and safeties or Will/Sam got pitch . You tackle/smash you man every time reguardless if he has the ball or not. play cover free in the secondary and go to work.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 11:07 am to Mudminnow
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Firing Malleveto is step #1
your posts are new, exciting, and original each and every day.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 11:44 am to addistiger
best defense against the option is always 4-3 and the trick is to have your fastest smartest guys at d-end and line b's and safeties....
now when coaching against it you have to teach basic and to each job everyone has to comit totally play your position every play follow your assignment not the ball....
scout team needs to be very quick and run it to death...repetition is the key...
we have the talent to beat them it is just coaching them to be in the right spot everytime because it takes all 11 guys being where they are taught every play 1 mistake by one guy and they will break one!!
play smart and play your spot and they will dominate
now when coaching against it you have to teach basic and to each job everyone has to comit totally play your position every play follow your assignment not the ball....
scout team needs to be very quick and run it to death...repetition is the key...
we have the talent to beat them it is just coaching them to be in the right spot everytime because it takes all 11 guys being where they are taught every play 1 mistake by one guy and they will break one!!
play smart and play your spot and they will dominate
This post was edited on 12/8/08 at 11:47 am
Posted on 12/8/08 at 12:09 pm to Prominentwon
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The one win, our DC switched over to a 3-3-5 scheme. Worked great and slowed the attack down to the point where Ga. Southern could never pull away and kept them in check.
Very interesting. I'm not an expert but I believe a 30-stack might be a pretty good approach.
You're gonna give up rushing yards up the middle, but you should contain the edges better, have more help for tackling in the secondary and give up fewer 50 yard TD runs.
Also it could make option reads harder and with the LB's stacked behind the DE's they are harder to get to.
I have also read that the service academies like to run 4-4 defenses against each other and that AFA would often stack a couple of LB's and have them fake to make option reads more difficult.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 12:14 pm to GoldenTornado
I say we stack 11 in the box, double team evey wide out and play 3 safeties. Plus, arm all the db's with a long handle hoe and a taser gun. That'll slow 'em down.
This post was edited on 12/8/08 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 12/8/08 at 12:14 pm to addistiger
Defending the option requires sound fundamentals, good coaching, and disciplined players. We're fricked.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 12:18 pm to OTIS2
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I say we stack 11 in the box, double team evey wide out and play 3 safeties. Plus, arm all the db's with a long handle hoe and a taser gun. That'll slow 'em down.
The old 18-man defense. Always a wise choice.
Posted on 12/8/08 at 12:19 pm to lctigers2
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Im going to throw it out there and say that if they get outside the tackles we are screwed. None of our d-backs have been tackling worth a shite.
One thing I've noticed is that most CB's and some safeties have a hard time with physical and aggressive downfield and perimeter blocking. They are more comfy in pass D than trying to get off blocks to stop the run.
On a typical counter-option the DB's and OLB's will find themselves faced with 240 and 230 pound lead blockers (A-Back Cox and WR Thomas), a 230 pound pitch man (Dwyer) and a 220 pound option QB.
So while lots of GT opponents complain about missed tackles, I think that the offense generates some natural mismatches that "encourage" the missed tackles.
This post was edited on 12/8/08 at 12:21 pm
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