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re: Why do so many white people in Louisiana mispronounce "ask" ?

Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10937 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:38 pm to
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Why do so many White people say "I seen" instead of "I saw"? as in "I seen a wreck on I-10"


Past vs Present Tense.
Posted by BarCo49
Alabama
Member since Apr 2021
234 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:39 pm to
No dog in this fight. Grew up in the "wiregrass" region of Alabama. Only heard black folk use ax/axe for ask? Had an 8th grade honors English class in about 1979 - Paul Johnson, who was not white, but was a very intelligent guy, would say, Mmmmssss Finey - let me, uh, uh, uh, axe you a querstion. She'd say, "What ya gonna do Paul, take an axe and ax me?"

He liked screwing with her as much as she did him.


Years later I befriended some baws from NOLA to Morgan City to Laffy. They all talked "funny" and they thought we did. Only one of those baws, he's 46 and grew up in St. Rose / Norco, said Axe/Ax. His father, pronounced "Fah-thuH" 50 miles north of me, said "Ask".

IDK. WTF?
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
55008 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

"let me axe you a question."


If she is female
If she is Southern
If she is black

Then, probability is high she is hot
Posted by TheTeaux
Rouses on Airline Drive
Member since Mar 2023
1210 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:48 pm to
You better not get lost in the quarter if you are coming to the game. Be sure to stay at a hotel on the West Bank where it is safe.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16057 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:50 pm to
I’ll try to link it, but” ask” was pronounced “axe” in days of yore.

LINK /
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 6:52 pm
Posted by KAHog
South Trough
Member since Mar 2013
2424 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

Pacifickly instead of specifically..... Chester drawers Aunt - said awn-tee


Heatherns is the one that gets me
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16057 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:01 pm to
I struggle spelling “creditability.”
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8529 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:13 pm to
I don’t know why you axe me this


But I do know. They all Ask’d For You.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29818 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

Pacifickly instead of specifically.....

Chester drawers

Aunt - said awn-tee
Ernge (the color or fruit)

Pyancil (pencil)

Credick

Walmarks
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1859 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:22 pm to
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Texas isn't the south.

I love how Texas tries to act like they are their own identity, yet they practically begged to be annexed by the U.S. because of fear from Mexicans and Indians. Then they joined the Confederacy. Wow, that sounds so independent
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5767 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:27 pm to
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It's entirely related to the number of poor british who settled the area.

See thomas Sowell for a more in depth explanation of southern language essentially being slang.


Black Rednecks and White Liberals ?

https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2005/05/black-rednecks-and-white-liberals/
quote:

Saying “acrost” for “across” or “ax” for “ask” are today considered to be part of black English. But this way of talking was common centuries ago in those regions of Britain from which white Southerners came. They brought with them more than their own dialect. They brought a whole way of life that made antebellum white Southerners very different from white Northerners.

Violence was far more common in the South — and in those parts of Britain from which Southerners came. So was illegitimacy, lively music and dance, and a style of religious oratory marked by strident rhetoric, unbridled emotions, and flamboyant imagery. All of this would become part of the cultural legacy of blacks, who lived for centuries in the midst of the redneck culture of the South.

Illiteracy was far more common among whites in the antebellum South than among whites in the North, and of course the blacks held in bondage in the South were virtually all illiterate. On into the early 20th century, Southern whites scored lower on mental tests than whites in other parts of the country, as blacks continued to do.

Many aspects of Southern life that some observers have attributed to race or racism, or to slavery, were common to Southern blacks and whites alike — and were common in those parts of Britain from which Southern whites came, where there were no slaves and where most people had never seen anyone black.

Most Southern blacks and whites moved away from that redneck culture over the generations, as its consequences proved to be counterproductive or even disastrous. But it survives today among the poorest and least educated ghetto blacks.



Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14197 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

Why do so many White people say "I seen" instead of "I saw"?

Because they're slack-jawed idiots?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
13071 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:30 pm to
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Don't tell me is a social class/educational thing. I have come across many lower class, uneducated folk in places like Texas and Mississippi and Ohio, and they don't say "let me axe you a question."

I’ve heard it in virtually every state I have visited.

But then again I hang out with low class peeps
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9614 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:30 pm to
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Or creole. Big difference


Ah yes the great loophole racists love to use.

“Daddy he isn’t black. He’s creole”
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
4753 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:35 pm to
The coonass kryptonite:

Bring/take
Gone/went
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29313 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:39 pm to
What a stupid thread. And you sound like a whiny bitch.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29313 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:40 pm to
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I have no idear.


My 6th grade math teacher said idear instead of idea and it made me fricking speechless.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19145 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:42 pm to
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Don't tell me is a social class/educational thing. I have come across many lower class, uneducated folk in places like Texas and Mississippi and Ohio, and they don't say "let me axe you a question."

Yes, it is predominant in New Orleans, but in the last week I have spoken to people from New Roads and Eunice and they both said "axe."



Local dialect. Now if you really want to stir up the hornets nest ask why Jim Hawethorne could not procounce Alex Box...
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50280 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:44 pm to
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See thomas Sowell for a more in depth explanation of southern language essentially being slang.



Was an interesting read.
Posted by killedbyindians
Earth
Member since Jun 2022
1192 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 7:50 pm to
My favorite is when you arrange a meeting and a coonass will tell you “I’ll be there for seven o’clock” and I respond ok I don’t know what that means but I’ll be there at seven.
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