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re: If nurses across the US simply got paid more then we wouldn’t have a nursing shortage
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:43 am to JasonDBlaha
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:43 am to JasonDBlaha
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When you factor in COL and California taxes that reduces it to at least $200,000 which would be equivalent to $130,000-$150,000 in Deep South states like Texas and Louisiana
Everything is bigger in California which is why the salaries are so inflated there
Someone teach this moron how to use a calculator.
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:49 am to JasonDBlaha
You start paying RNs more than your NPs and PAs, take a wild guess what problem pops up next.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
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What kind of shitty parent are you??
Can you honestly say, as a (i assume) working parent that you spent 40 hours a week in the same room as your elementary-aged children?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:12 am to Rick9Plus
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Can you honestly say, as a (i assume) working parent that you spent 40 hours a week in the same room as your elementary-aged children?
throughout the year I spent far far more time with my kid, one on one (not 30 other kids in the room) than any teacher.
Education of a child is far more dependent on the parent than any teacher.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:12 am to JasonDBlaha
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If nurses across the US simply got paid more then we wouldn’t have a nursing shortage
something, something, what about the 40% of doctors and nurses who got fired for refusing to get vaxxed?
but that could not have anything at all to do with why there are medical staff shortages today
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:15 am to Privateer 2007
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So, you're admitting that they aren't "overworked". Just fricking lazy.
I am not saying that at all. I am saying that a lot of younger nurses spend too much time on their effing phones.
But please, feel free to manipulate my words to fit your agenda.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:17 am to JasonDBlaha
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Which is why nursing unions are important. If there was a strong nursing union presence in all states then we wouldn’t be having this problem of shortages of nurses.
Like teacher unions, right?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Education of a child is far more dependent on the parent than any teacher.
In that i can agree, but you can’t deny the impact of a good teacher vs a shitty one. If you’ve ever had any meaningful interaction with cops or nurses, you also know that the quality of the individual makes a huge difference in how the situation ends up. Same with nurses, teachers, and, sadly, parents. Why not give the ones who do it for a living the support (whether it’s salary or work environment) that would allow the good ones to stay in the most crucial roles, like bedside nursing?
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:22 am to Rick9Plus
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In that i can agree, but you can’t deny the impact of a good teacher vs a shitty one
We're kind of veering way off course and I am not even sure what the point is anymore.
Education costs are out of control for the results we get. The current model has to be on its last legs due to expense and declining results.
We are virtually at a point where we would save money paying a parent to stay home and teach them.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:23 am to Rick9Plus
As a former bedside nurse who has moved on to another role, what I saw on the med-surg and telemetry units (the main floors of the hospital) was that most of the nurses working those roles were new grads. Once they got enough experience they gtfo and moved to (much) greener pastures. A new grad RN has a lot to learn and misses things someone with experience wouldn’t.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:26 am to JasonDBlaha
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then why are all of these travel nursing agencies offering crazy 3 month contracts that pay close to $6,000 a week?
Where are contracts being offered for that amount currently? Not in Houston. Maybe nurses in California don't want to deal with the druggie, homeless, criminal population that generally shows up in their ERs.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:34 am to JasonDBlaha
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If a hospital company is raking in $20 billion a year, they should be able to afford to pay their nurses at least $120,000 a year
Well, 169/hour is around 340k a year.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:45 am to JasonDBlaha
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If a hospital company is raking in $20 billion a year, they should be able to afford to pay their nurses at least $120,000 a year
I have only made it this far in this thread and I am positive this is not going the way OP intended it to go.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:47 am to JasonDBlaha
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o $169.00 an hour.
That's over $300,000 per year. Ain't no nurse worth $300,000 per year. frick that noise.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:04 am to rpg37
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Like teacher unions, right?
That’s different. Teachers don’t hold the same amount of liability as nurses do. If a nurse fricks up and accidentally gives a toxic dose of a medication to a patient, then that could be the end of the hospital and the nurse would be thrown in jail. That kind of thing has happened several times already.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 11:15 am
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:08 am to the4thgen
I’d say this thread is going pretty smoothly
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:29 am to JasonDBlaha
Let me guess, you’re a nurse. It’s one of the most over rated professions in Healthcare. You can pay them all you want and you’ll still get crappy nursing.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:33 am to JasonDBlaha
During Covid, there was a major nurse shortage issue so nurses could get pretty much what they wanted salary wise. And then the travel opportunities really took off. Nursing salaries are a major part of a hospital’s budget and at some point, hospitals had the reign in their salaries. So, that is what’s going on now and of course, it’s not sitting well with nurses.
The other thing, and this goes for the radiology tech world also, is that there’s a large number of nurses that are headed towards retirement and the number of people graduating from nursing school is not necessarily covering that number.
And, this generation of incoming nurses has an attitude of leverage as in how they want to work, when they want to work, taking call, etc.
The other thing, and this goes for the radiology tech world also, is that there’s a large number of nurses that are headed towards retirement and the number of people graduating from nursing school is not necessarily covering that number.
And, this generation of incoming nurses has an attitude of leverage as in how they want to work, when they want to work, taking call, etc.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:48 am to Johnnie10lb
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You can pay them all you want and you’ll still get crappy nursing.
Nursing is like any higher paying profession. You have 2 types, the ones that are doing it because they like taking care of people and the ones that are in it for the money.
Specialty Nurses are usually pretty damn good.
But straight RN’s that just work patient holding wards can be some of the most annoying, entitled dipshits in the hospital. Some of them are good. But a good bit are complacent as hell, miserable and just act like an over educated drive through worker. They just get the patients in and out as fast as possible so they can get to the next order.
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:51 am to jimmy the leg
There’s so much BS information in this thread I don’t know where to start.
I’ve been a nurse for 20 years. Yes, competent nurses need better pay, but it isn’t going to ever happen. Hospitals are basically Walmart. They’re run by a bunch of corporate asshats that have zero clinical experience. All that matters is the bottom line. They will continue to squeeze every penny out of the employees, increase patient load, and not allow overtime. I’ll never work for a hospital again.
I’ve been a nurse for 20 years. Yes, competent nurses need better pay, but it isn’t going to ever happen. Hospitals are basically Walmart. They’re run by a bunch of corporate asshats that have zero clinical experience. All that matters is the bottom line. They will continue to squeeze every penny out of the employees, increase patient load, and not allow overtime. I’ll never work for a hospital again.
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