re: Will Wade was a mediocre coach at BEST

The IARP committee was reported to be used a year and a half prior to wades firing. Wade was fired because of his lack of cooperation and restructure of his contract to state that if found to have committed infractions that he could be terminated. Football still received the penalty they would have received anyway considering the self imposed penalties that had already taken place. No deal occurred.

So you never met him. Makes sense being how wrong you are about his personality.

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The IARP committee was reported to be used a year and a half prior to wades firing. Wade was fired because of his lack of cooperation and restructure of his contract to state that if found to have committed infractions that he could be terminated. Football still received the penalty they would have received anyway considering the self imposed penalties that had already taken place. No deal occurred.

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I'm not saying a deal did or did not occur in this situation. I was simply responding to you general statement that the NCAA doesn't have any incentive to make any deals.

I agree that LSU was PO'ed that he wouldn't "cooperate" with them and that probably helped push the needle towards firing him when they did. However, make no mistake, that was a proactive move by LSU in anticipating of a negative NCAA ruling. I said from day 1 I understand WHY LSU chose to fire him. The question now is "what it worth it or necessary?"

Maybe if they don't fire Wade the sanctions levied would have been much more severe and LSU would have had to fire him anyway (although that doesn't seem all that likely given the IARPs ruling) and the fact he currently has a job as the HC of a D-1 program.

Perhaps the AD didn't want an employee he didn't "trust". Particularly one who was very insistent and demanding of things he wanted from the AD for his basketball program. I get that from the AD's perspective.

But I also think it is hard to argue the program would be in MUCH better shape in terms of actual results were Wade still the coach. Final Four level success? Probably not. But certainly not bottom of the SEC which is what LSU was last season and looks to be headed towards again this season.

So I guess the question is was Wade's termination to avoid the risk of severe sanctions worth it when the current performance/state of the program may as well be one under severe sanctions? Or, in other words, did LSU essentially self impose a "death penalty" in practice to avoid a "death penalty" in name?

I would say above average since he was in the tournament consistently. He could recruit (although illegally) and could inspire but his offensive sets lacked movement and his teams lacked fundamentals.

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that was a proactive move by LSU in anticipating of a negative NCAA ruling. I said from day 1 I understand WHY LSU chose to fire him. The question now is "what it worth it or necessary?"

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I also agree with this thought. I have no doubts that LSU athletic department fired him thinking it would make them appear more serious about the infractions.
I do not believe the ncaa would give any sort of confirmation that firing him would make a difference on the ruling or sanctions being levied against the football program.

He didn’t cheat, he did what everyone else was doing.

And keep in mind he inherited an absolutely shite tier program and immediately turned it around

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When was the last time in LSU history we made 4 straight tourney?

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Well Dale Brown took his teams to 10 straight, but people here still love to shite all over him.

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Like I said he had the luxury of recruiting (albeit illegally) elite talent who could actually shoot (unlike the players we have now) but when you actually watched a game that he coached the offense was just throw the ball around until somebody eventually made a move. It wasn't from strategy.

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Hahahahahaha

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Usurp

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Holy shite you are stupid.

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Like I said he had the luxury of recruiting (albeit illegally) elite talent who could actually shoot (unlike the players we have now) but when you actually watched a game that he coached the offense was just throw the ball around until somebody eventually made a move. It wasn't from strategy

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You don’t produce top 20 teams in offensive efficiency by rolling the ball out and letting talent take over.

Also, how many 1st round draft picks did Wade have in his 5 years? Better yet, how many draft picks did he have total in 5 years? 4 total and only 2 first rounders. Point being, his teams were not so talented that they were just better than everyone else. Tenn, Ark and Kentucky all had more talent during that stretch, yet he won more conference games…