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Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:41 pm
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29527 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:41 pm
Say you’re Arkansas or Mississippi State looking for a coach and you want to rank these possible candidates from best to worst. How would you rank them?

Dan Mullen
Jimbo Fisher
Chip Kelly
Tom Herman
Gus Malzahn
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
48726 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 10:43 pm to
Dan
Gus
Chip
Tom
Jimbo
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47418 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 11:06 pm to
Gus
Jimbo
Chip
Dan
Tom
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
3497 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 12:28 am to
If I was Arkansas or State none of those coaches would be near the top of my list.
Posted by Hogo Stiglitz
Rogers
Member since Jun 2021
181 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:02 am to
Herman
Mullen
Kelly
Malzahn
Jimbo
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22540 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:39 am to
Gus
Mullen
Herman
Kelly
Jimbo

Jimbo and Kelly are washed in this age of football. Jimbo doesn’t want to modernize and Kelly’s offense isn’t unique at all anymore.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7711 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:51 am to
Mullen first

Jumbo last

The rest interchangeable
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29527 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:02 am to
Seems that Mullen is getting the nod, but let’s examine that.

In his 9 years at MSU, he had a winning conference record once (6-2 in 2014). In his 4th year at Florida, he went 5-6.

Contrast that with Herman, who had a winning conference record in each of his 4 seasons at Texas and both of his seasons at Houston and is 5-0 in bowl games (Mullen has been good in bowls too with a 7-3 record).
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 8:06 am
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3601 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:05 am to
Herman is a good coach. He pissed off too many people at Texas with his arrogance but he’s a good coach.

If LSU were in the market for a head coach, I’d be ok with Herman getting consideration.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36862 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Mullen first

Jumbo last

The rest interchangeable

Elmer Fudd and that silly wabbit are in front of Mullen but that would make your list correct.
Posted by BayouTigers4Life
Chi-town
Member since Dec 2004
7047 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 8:27 am to
Seriously Herman is a good coach and runs a good offense. UT has unrealistic expectations and too many impatient boosters. He can be successful in most other places. LSU fans just have a grudge against him because he used us to negotiate with UT.
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
7675 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 9:45 am to
Herman beat the brakes off Ga
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22540 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 9:53 am to
I’d hope nobody makes coaching hires off of 1 non-playoff bowl game.
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6662 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:18 pm to
Gus Malzahn
Dan Mullen
Tom Herman
Jimbo Fisher
Chip Kelly



Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47418 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:37 pm to
I think all of these coaches are in a similar tier but the way I view it.

Gus, Jimbo, Chip have had success at a major program. So that puts them at the top for me. You can argue any order of those three for me and I’d probably be fine with it.

Herman had success at Houston. I guess some minor success at Texas but ultimately categorized as a failure for me.

Mullen got MSU to a level of success they’re not used to within a Power conference. Obviously failed at UF.

So the three with success at a major program first. Then Mullen with success in a major conference. Then Herman with only success at a minor school in a minor conference.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33794 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:38 pm to
I wouldn't hire any of them.
Posted by DomesticatedBoar
Daphne, AL
Member since Jul 2019
616 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Gus
Mullen
Herman
Kelly
Jimbo

Jimbo and Kelly are washed in this age of football. Jimbo doesn’t want to modernize and Kelly’s offense isn’t unique at all anymore.


All of this could be said of Gus. He’s 5-5. In his third season. At U.C.F. Yesterday’s news.
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6662 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Obviously failed at UF.


3 Consecutive NY6 bowls is obvious failure? I get his last year was awful, but I think we should stop and ask ourselves if Florida is really the program it thinks it is.

Florida since Spurrier:
8-5 24th
8-5 24th
7-5 25th
9-3 12th
Natty
9-4 13th
Natty
13-1 3rd
8-5
7-6
11-2 9th
4-8
7-5
10-4 25th
9-4 13th
4-7
10-3 6th
11-2 6th
8-4 12th
6-7

6-7
5-5

Outside of 3 great years with two titles in a four year stretch under Meyer, Mullen's tenure was miles ahead of anyone else they've hired.
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6662 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

All of this could be said of Gus. He’s 5-5. In his third season. At U.C.F. Yesterday’s news.


Hes at a school that just transitioned from G5 to Power 5. BYU is 5-5 Houston is 4-6 and Cincinnati is 3-7.

He's having a decent year under the circumstances.

Kyle Wittingham went 8-5 5-7 5-7 in Utahs first 3 years in the Pac12.

Gary Patterson went 7-6 4-8 in TCUs first two years in the Big 12.

Given time I'd expect UCF to start recruiting towards the Top of the new Big 12 and Gus will probably make a playoff or two if he sticks around for the rest of his career.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47418 posts
Posted on 11/15/23 at 3:17 pm to
I actually didn’t realize he had back to back 10 win seasons at UF somehow. His tenure felt like much more of a failure than that.
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