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Just in -- Treasury’s $24 billion 30-year bond auction goes poorly today

Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:28 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124346 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:28 pm
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Treasury’s $24 billion 30-year bond auction goes poorly, trader says
By Vivien Lou Chen
Nov. 9, 2023 at 1:07 p.m. ET


Thursday afternoon’s $24 billion sale of 30-year Treasury bonds drew weaker-than-expected demand, according to Greg Faranello, head of U.S. rates trading and strategy at AmeriVet Securities in New York, citing the bid-to-cover ratio and yield concession which came in. The 1 p.m. Eastern time auction caps a trio of sales that have taken place since Tuesday, totaling $112 billion, and which were seen as important tests of demand. Treasury yields moved up slightly after the Thursday’s auction results came out, reflecting a further selloff in underlying government debt.

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Investors expressed concern about the government's ability to manage its debt, and about overall health of the US economy. Yield was expected to remain fairly flat. The unexpected 11 BP jump was the highest in nearly 1 1/2 yrs.
Posted by LSUBanker
Gonzales, La
Member since Sep 2003
2552 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:34 pm to
Investors are still not convinced on where rates are headed. Maybe they're thinking I can get higher yield later if I wait it out.

I'm hearing foreign interest of US debt is very low.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 8:33 pm
Posted by LSUBanker
Gonzales, La
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:34 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127005 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:35 pm to
Didn't you hear, NC, that the U.S. treasury market "collapsed" this morning because of a cyber attack on a Chinese bank?

Drama Queens....Drama Queens EVERYWHERE!
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68499 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:36 pm to

Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46533 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 1:48 pm to
Doesn't make any sense why people aren't snapping up all the government bonds they can afford?

US is going to blast by $34 trillion debt by the end of the Q1 in 2024.
US debt service will blast through $1 trillion annually by the end of Q1 in 2024

People need to show their faith and belief in our federal government and buy as much debt as they can afford.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 2:06 pm to
What are the Treasury's possible response to this?
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45433 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 2:20 pm to
There are people that will tell you this means nothing.

Those people are idiots.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7956 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 2:34 pm to
Who would want to own our debt at this duration? Regardless of what happens with rates over that period, it’s obvious that the government intends to just inflate the debt away.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91038 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:07 pm to
What happens theoretically if people just stopped buying these bonds? Would it force govt to cut spending if they can’t sell the bonds to borrow the money to cover it?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
11007 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:45 pm to
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Investors expressed concern about the government's ability to manage its debt
what concern? Interest on >30T? :goodluck.gif:
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about overall health of the US economy
:bones to kirk.gif:
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
9047 posts
Posted on 11/10/23 at 10:58 am to
Michigan 1yr inflation expectation had fallen all the way from 5.4 peak in mid 2022 to 3.2% at end of September

in just 2 months that 1yr number has jumped to 4.2% and now 4.4%

it suggests any hope of rate cuts in 2024 is a joke

far worse ?

is 5-10yr inflation expectation at 3.2%

thats the worst number since 2011 and its only been higher 1 month in the 21st century ( SEE BELOW )

CONSUMERS SEE OUR GOVT SPENDING IS OUT OF CONTROL AND WILL DRIVE INFLATION HIGHER FOR LONGER ABSENT SEVERE RECESSION

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