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Posted on 11/9/23 at 6:53 pm to Canon951
I was always told
Red touching yellow will kill a fellow.
Red touching black, pat him on the back.
Red touching yellow will kill a fellow.
Red touching black, pat him on the back.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:39 pm to ptra
I learned this when I was little we had long haired hippies that drove vans in the 1960’s and early 1970’s.
One of them happened to be a guy that visited Cub Scout troops and educated the scouts about snakes.
He had a coral snake and King snake which he showed us and explained the difference between them.
Even though he was a sandle wearing hippie with long hair, the guy was pretty cool and into snakes.
One of them happened to be a guy that visited Cub Scout troops and educated the scouts about snakes.
He had a coral snake and King snake which he showed us and explained the difference between them.
Even though he was a sandle wearing hippie with long hair, the guy was pretty cool and into snakes.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 8:08 pm to UpToPar
Yellow touches red you're dead.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 8:19 pm to UpToPar
Yep, beautifull creatures. Never seen one in all my years.
But then again, I walked a wet valley on my land for 2 years and never saw a snake and the dozer man building my pond killed over a dozen cottomouths...good eyes are important!
But then again, I walked a wet valley on my land for 2 years and never saw a snake and the dozer man building my pond killed over a dozen cottomouths...good eyes are important!
Posted on 11/9/23 at 8:37 pm to UpToPar
I had a snake expert tell me recently that the "red and yellow kill a fellow" rhyme isn't always accurate. There are variations of colors that coral snakes can have. Some where the red is almost non-existent and some where the yellow is extremely faint. there are also some non-venomous snakes that have red and yellow touching.
myths
I'm not going to be picking up any colorful snakes anytime soon
myths
I'm not going to be picking up any colorful snakes anytime soon
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:36 pm to Turnblad85
Well, that’s great news. Just when I get the rhyme straight.
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:40 pm to UpToPar
Yes, Coral snake.
This is a Scarlet Kingsnake
This is a Scarlet Kingsnake
This post was edited on 11/11/23 at 10:47 am
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:46 pm to Turnblad85
quote:
I'm not going to be picking up any colorful snakes anytime soon
I haven't looked recently, but for the longest time of the relatively low number of fatal snakebites in the United States, roughly half were bitten on the hands.
That means it is those snake handler lunatics and Billy Bob out in the woods fricking with the snakes getting killed half the time.
This post was edited on 11/10/23 at 6:48 am
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:51 pm to Ace Midnight
I’ve piddled around in the woods, swamps, marshes, dunes, and fields in the southeast often for over fifty years. Frequently actively looking for snakes. Never encountered a coral snake in the wild. Stumbled upon every endemic venomous snake but a coral at least a couple of times. Would consider myself lucky to see one.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 6:56 am to Wavefan
Beautiful snake. I’m 62, only corals I’ve seen have been in exhibits, never seen one in the wild.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 8:32 am to UpToPar
I’ve seen one, it was in Alabama stuck to a sticky mouse trap
Posted on 11/10/23 at 11:39 am to Big L
Saw one last year in front yard, here in SE Texas. Saw a HUGE one crossing the street in the neighborhood also.
Posted on 11/10/23 at 3:31 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:
and you basically have to be in a coma to actually get a serious dose of venom
Akin to one of the worst myths about any snake in the US. When I was growing up, the myth was that they couldn't strike and had to "chew" to deliver their venom. Most people in the who are bitten by coral snakes in the US are bitten on the hands or forearms due to either picking up the snake under the misguided belief that they cannot envenomate via a strike or by reaching their hands into the kind of places where coral snakes hide. According to one source that I saw today, there are about 25-50 coral snake bites in the US each year. I didn't try to research that article's reliability.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 10:56 am to BiggerBear
quote:
According to one source that I saw today, there are about 25-50 coral snake bites in the US each year. I didn't try to research that article's reliability.
CDC doesn't break it down, but they post 6k to 7k bites by venomous snakes (all types) per year, with about 5 fatalities per year.
Wikipedia doesn't line up with that, because (and wiki is weak, for sure, but generally decent for lists like this) they only have 4 since COVID and, while 2015 does list 5, most years have only 1 or 2 fatal bites listed, if any. The last confirmed (or even suspected) coral snake fatality was in 2006 and the victim was trying to kill the snake.
It's one of those things - copperheads bite more folks. Rattlesnakes kill more folks. Coral snakes are (almost) a boogeyman of sort. Everybody talks about them, but they are almost never encountered, almost never bite and almost never kill (absolutely, not even comparing them to the pit vipers).
This post was edited on 11/11/23 at 10:58 am
Posted on 11/11/23 at 2:10 pm to deeprig9
quote:
Although they are the only neurotoxin snake in North America, they don't have pit viper fangs so they can't deliver much of it in a strike,
Rear fixed-fang delivery system, like with cobras (which they're related to). Also, your statement that they're the only snake in North America with a true neurotoxic venom is true. However, the Mojave Green and Southern Pacific Rattlesnakes of the Southwest/California have a very sinister concoction of venom that is your typical hemotoxic enzyme with some added neurotoxic properties. Quite bad if you take a bite from any of them, but you pretty much have to be getting chewed on for the Coral's delivery system to work.
Corals are beautiful and awesome snakes but they're quite wirey and quick similar to many colubrids.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 3:05 pm to AlxTgr
AlxTgr
Back in my high school days I worked for a family in Woodworth off what is now Cooley Crossing and we would see 3 or 4 a summer. Only area in Rapides Parish I've ever come across one.
Back in my high school days I worked for a family in Woodworth off what is now Cooley Crossing and we would see 3 or 4 a summer. Only area in Rapides Parish I've ever come across one.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 3:08 pm to TigerAxeOK
I was 20 before I saw one and then saw two in the first 5 minutes when I visited Sicily Island Hills
They are always just trying to get away. Hard to get one to stay still for a picture. Kinda cornered one once and he put his head under some leaves and wrapped his tail to make it look like a head and waved it as a defense mechanism.
If y’all want to watch a bunch of dumbasses get bitten here is a good link. Tigrrrrdad May be on the there one day
LINK
They are always just trying to get away. Hard to get one to stay still for a picture. Kinda cornered one once and he put his head under some leaves and wrapped his tail to make it look like a head and waved it as a defense mechanism.
If y’all want to watch a bunch of dumbasses get bitten here is a good link. Tigrrrrdad May be on the there one day
LINK
Posted on 11/11/23 at 3:09 pm to wryder1
quote:
I killed this one in pollock
Why are you killing coral snakes?? Pussy.
Educate yourself.
This post was edited on 11/11/23 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 11/25/23 at 9:42 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
Coral snakes are (almost) a boogeyman of sort. Everybody talks about them, but they are almost never encountered, almost never bite and almost never kill (absolutely, not even comparing them to the pit vipers).
It might be easy to believe that based on lack of fatalities, but that isn't the whole story. I read an article back from 2010-2012 or so, that was published around the time that the antivenom was expiring or getting an extension from its expiry because no one was making it. One guy was interviewed who had spent a few weeks in a respirator. He was bitten on the arm while handling the snake under the misguided belief that it couldn't envenomate him (I can't remember the exact reason he thought that).
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